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Oct. 16, 2018, 8:47 a.m. -  Andrew Major

Yes. So comparing them to the stretchiest / priciest Gore pants I happily just sport a pair of athletic boxers under these but really need another layer under the Gore - read lycra shorts - or they feel soupy and cold on the descent after a hot climb.  I’ll add a photo of the mesh liner later. It’s a great feature I should have captioned (thanks!). It’s just a thin mesh lining so it’s about comfort not insulation.

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