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June 25, 2018, 12:59 p.m. -  Cam McRae

What I was told is that Shimano wasn't listening to athletes - or product staff outside of Japan apparently - until late into the product development cycle until quite recently. SRAM development doesn't happen in a vacuum in the same way from what I understand. There are many staff, and presumably athletes (although I don't have specific info about this), involved and it seems to be very much a collaborative effort. Whether athletes are the difference, I couldn't say.

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