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June 28, 2016, 10:36 a.m. -  Brizzy

#!markdown Oh I use the Tour version that's only 8 or 9 L, it's only $50 on Sierra Trading Post. For 14L of stuff I'd probably just want a backpack too, but I almost never need that much. I've never had a bottle come loose from the holders, the elastic is plenty strong. Actually mountainsmith also makes backpack-style shoulder straps that buckle on and essentially turn them into the new Camelbak low packs. They were years ahead of mtb fashion and didn't even know it!

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