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The SE4s came stock on my slash \(29\*2.3\) and I hung onto the rear tire for a couple of rides \(replaced the front for a Magic Mary right off the bat pretty much\). I found it very drifty and not offering any significant hook up when cornering or pushing hard. Switched to a SE5 \(my preferred of the Bonty offerings\) and found a noticeable increase in grip under braking and cornering traction.
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