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Oct. 31, 2016, 10:17 a.m. -  mike

#!markdown other than the addition of belt loops and a awkward looking buckle set-up I don,t see the benefit of these shorts over my Altura shorts I paid $85 for 2 seasons back and still kick ass in the muck and wet . as far as fit goes they look like the cheap $10 nylon pants my sister wears for grooming .

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