Dec. 4, 2013, 11:23 a.m. -  heckler

#!markdown Nanamam, If you only ride in the dry summer weather, I can understand where you're coming from. However, we ride all year round here. Are you honestly saying you prefer to ride through mud pits than over hard packed dirt? I live beside the RJ trail network and it's my winter evening pedal - I'm super stoked to not come home covered in muck. And to put things into perspective - check out the gravel trail climb on the north side of RJ. It was put in as a literally 10 foot wide gravel road which I hated the look of. Now it's a 4 foot wide meandering path that's slowly been getting covered up with forest debris. The gold paths of today will end up the same way in a few years if people can keep their tires on the trail. I'm also the TAP permit holder on Team Pangor, and over the last 10 years have transformed Pangor from swampy mud holes in the winter to a trail you can ride all year round without getting axle deep muddy. I'm curious why no one ever compains about the dumbing down of Pangor. I've shut down gnarly root chutes that were killing trees, and eliminated water flow down the trail that was eroding the trailbed to a deep bouldery trench in places. Sven