4-Piston Brake Review
TRP DH-R Evo Brake Review
TRP may not be a new name to you by this point. We’ve featured several of their brakes and they’ve been steadily building their presence on the World Cup Circuit. Aaron Gwin first brought much of the attention when he began using them and now he's been joined by his Intense Factory Racing teammates. But now TRP can be found on the factory team bikes of other World Cup teams, including Scott Factory Racing, The YT Mob and Commencal 100.
Their latest release, the DH-R Evo is the brake choice of these downhill teams. On the outside, they look almost identical to the DHR and don’t differ much from the Quadiem but TRP claims there are quite a few differences. I enjoyed the feel and consistency of both the TRP Slate T4 trail brakes and Quadiem DH brake but they lacked initial bite and required more effort to pull power from. I was hopeful TRP’s changes might fix those issues, while remaining consistent when things get wild.
Features:
- Tool-free lever reach adjust
- Four-piston calliper
- Mineral oil
- 2.3mm thick rotors
- Most standard rotors are 1.8mm thick
- Thinner and stiffer, 5mm thick hose
- Improved oil flow
- New “performance resin” pads stock in brake
- Metallic and regular resin pads available
- Steel/ceramic hybrid piston material
- Weight: 662g w/o rotors (full 1,900mm hose length front and rear)
- Brake Lever – 133g/side
- Brake Caliper w/ 1900mm Line – 198g
- Rotors – 274g (223mm) / 244g (203mm) / 189g (180mm)
- MSRP: 229.99 USD w/o rotors
The Updates
Development of the DH-R Evo brakes started after Neko Mulally of Intense Factory Racing got his mitts on a set of development e-bike brakes. They featured 2.3mm x 223mm rotors and Neko enjoyed them so much that Gwin had to give them a try. He got along with the performance as well and TRP began developing the DH-R Evo, working closely with World Cup Downhill teams and doing heaps of testing.
Two years later, what started as tweaks to their eMTB brake turned into somewhat of an overhaul for aggressive riding. You’d be mistaken to think all that’s changed from the DHR or Quadiem is bigger rotors, which I wondered about when they first launched. Yes, the rotors are thicker and TRP is pushing the larger 223mm size but it’s only a small part of the changes. To improve the brakes, TRP made the lever feel lighter, access to the power easier while increasing power and improving heat management. Improving cooling is something I heard many times when chatting with TRP and almost every update has some effect on it.
To improve lever feel, TRP started by moving to a smaller 9mm piston, down from the 10mm pistons in the master cylinders of the DHR and Quadiem brakes. I asked TRP why they went smaller here and was informed that the smaller piston increases the force in the system. In the calliper, the opposite is true; four 16mm hybrid ceramic/stainless pistons remain. This combination results in less pressure to bring the brakes to attention, something that was clear the first time I squeezed the lever. The new Hayes Dominion also features a 9mm master cylinder piston and similar, light access to the power.
At the calliper, oil flow was improved by smoothing out the path it travels through. This smoother routing helps prevent chokepoints as the fluid is pushed through and released. Removing some of the nooks also helps with the bleeding process, eliminating places for air to hide. It also translates to less drag through the system, improving piston response. The new calliper internals also increase oil volume, improving heat management. TRP also noted a new mineral oil formula has increased the boiling point and making it thinner allows it to move through the system with less effort. It may look the same as Shimano’s or TRP’s old stuff but I was told that's not the case.
Housing the new oil is a new, slimmer 5mm hose. TRP previously used a 5.5mm hose but found with internal cable routing, it could be trickier to feed through frames. The new hose is constructed with a new compound, consisting of a stronger nylon wrap. Together, TRP says these make the line stiffer, more efficiently transferring pressure to the calliper. The new nylon being used is also said to improve heat management. Initially I was concerned the thinner hose might display the flimsy feel and poor durability of other brakes with smaller diameter lines, but these feel tough and durable and have lived up to that in performance.
Stock, the new brakes are fitted with pads featuring what TRP is referring to as a “performance resin compound.” I've removed resin pads from my bikes in the past because of a lack of bite and power but these are a different beast. TRP claims the pads were developed for a number of reasons, including a faster bed-in process to help with feel on shop floors. They also provide more initial bite with an even, linear curve to the power delivery. The material consists of smaller pours to improve heat management – less air being caught in the material – and is harder than their other resin (red) brake pads. TRP claim that outside of really wet races, most of their World Cup Downhill athletes are using the performance resin (blue) pad in the front and the sintered pad in the rear. This provides a mix of bite at the front wheel with the greater heat management required for a rear brake pad.
Lastly, and the most obvious update is the larger rotors. The DH-R Evo is designed around a 2.3mm rotor, which TRP claims provides a 47% increase in stiffness. Moving to a thicker rotor provides more material to dissipate heat to improve… you guessed it, heat management. The increased thickness also provides more stiffness so the 223mm rotor can withstand abuse. TRP says the brakes will work with regular rotor widths too if you need a replacement in a pinch and can't source a 2.3mm option.
Enough Tech: Practical Matters
Newer to TRP is their EZ plug system, which is supposed to speed up the initial setup process. The EZ plug allows TRP to provide customers with a full factory bled brake that when carefully installed, should provide a great experience. I took care during installation to maintain the factory bleed and with minimal purging at the lever during installation, achieved excellent feel. Over the past three-plus months and 700km on the Evos, there’s been no need for a follow-up bleed. The stock resin pads wore down enough before switching to the sintered option that if I had continued with them, a fluid top-up would have been necessary to keep my preferred lever feel. The resin pads are at about 50% and most of the testing was done with them.
If I'd had to perform a more involved bleed since installation, I would have said the initial care during setup outweighed the benefits. But given my success with the brakes since, it’s worth trying out. From the start, the lever feel has been excellent, the most notable characteristic being the light action. Before getting touchy-feely with Hayes Dominion levers and now the DH-R Evo, I didn’t have any problems with the lever feel of Shimano or SRAM brakes, but the light actuation is great, especially considering the power it harnesses.
And power there is. Coming straight from the excellent Shimano SLX four-piston brakes (M7120) to these, I wasn’t expecting the Evos to offer a large benefit but they offer at least as much power. The delivery of that power is where these excel but it’s quite different and took a few rides to adjust to. During my second ride with the new brakes, I hit Somewhere Over There in Squamish where I'd ridden on my last outing with the Shimanos. Conditions were dry and loose and the light lever action combined with the power and bite caught me off-guard on one memorable occasion.
Motoring into a section with excess confidence, I found myself having to dump speed quickly or I'd be getting uncomfortably familiar with the trees lining the trail. The section featured some roots that tossed the bike about and my overly enthusiastic approach meant braking heavily on a hard, dusty rock rather than the usual sticky granite found around Squamish. With the dust on the surface and the hurried grab at the lever, I thought I was doomed, but the bike quickly slowed to a manageable pace. If I'd been on other brakes, I wouldn’t have stopped and most definitely would have broken traction. Not only that, the brakes allowed for a smooth continuation, as if nothing had happened.
The power and light lever feel of the DH-R Evo made me change my braking strategy. I have a habit of lightly dragging my brakes longer than needed as I approach corners or features, before fully jumping on them. I’m not sure why I do it but I know others have the same issue. With the TRP Evos, I found myself coming into corners and features I know well, too slow. I began focusing on a more on-off approach to my braking, which has been great. They've allowed for more confidence when riding committed, braking purposefully when needed and staying completely off them anywhere else.
Before the SLX brakes, I‘d been on the TRP Quadiem and I’ve also been impressed by the smaller, less expensive TRP Slate T4 but neither of these offered easy access to loads of power, and required more hand strength. Where they excelled was in consistency and feel. On the longest most demanding descents in high summer they were always there with no change in lever feel. This TRP brake retains that consistency but now there’s bite and heaps of power to back it up.
Bring Out the Big Dogs
Until this point I'd been riding standard 203mm front and 180mm rear rotors. Before switching to the larger rotors, I spent a rather hot day – 30+C degrees – sliding down one of the steeper lines in my hometown of Squamish. This was a situation that required a more consistent drag on the brakes than I had been trying to achieve. The delivery and control of power was reassuring and I wanted to let go for longer, letting the speeds get higher between each jump on the anchors. Riding like this hasn’t been possible for me on this trail before because hitting the brakes so hard in the loose conditions would cause chaos. The way power can be controlled with these brakes can’t be over-stated – they’re really flippin’ good.
At the bottom of the trail, I briefly checked everything over and found discolouration on the front and rear rotors from excess heat – which usually happens at 250–316ºC. Amazingly, there was no rotor warping, and everything remained silent. The only rotor I’ve had that didn’t discolour in these conditions has been the Shimano Ice Tech with the black alloy carrier, but they still rubbed the pads when things got heated.
After a few rides on the larger 223mm/203mm rotors I returned to the steeper line I'd ridden earlier, in similar conditions. After arriving at the bottom of the trail I looked down at the rotors to see if they too had discoloured. There was nothing. Performance with the larger rotors was remarkable. The seemingly effortless ability to slow the bike and control the power made riding the steep loose line easier than it’s ever been. Conditions on the trail were actually worse this time around, with more loose baby heads and deep dust all the way down. Having the ability to control the speed so easily and effectively sold me on the brakes and bigger rotors solidified my conclusion.
A recent ride in Pemberton backed up my experience in the super dusty conditions. On lines where even in ideal, hero dirt conditions I’m normally stressed, I cruised down with little concern despite surprise ice and wet spots in lines that used to terrify me. This control and confidence has allowed me to drop into challenging lines and worry about the outcome as it happens. This, all with less stress on the hands and arms, allowing me to maintain strength down an entire run.
I’ve never experienced hand or arm fatigue with this brake setup. Non-stop runs of Misfire in the Whistler Bike Park fatigued my hands a little with the 203mm/180mm rotor setup with the TRPs, but I wasn’t even able to pull a non-stop lap with the SLX brakes. Slapping the larger rotors on the TRPs allowed me to ride that same lap almost completely free of fatigue, although I'd still tire overall from the effort involved on the physical trail.
To be honest, I was hesitant to run the bigger rotors when I began this review and thought I would test them then roll back to the standard size I used to run. The quality and control the DH-R Evo's provide with my previously standard rotor size was excellent and I didn’t think it could get much better. But the extra slack effort needed to control the bike with the bigger rotors, on top of the already sensational performance has changed my view; the big dogs are staying put. I was also happy enough with the performance resin pads that there was no hurry to toss in the metallic option. They’re really good but the metallics provide a more positive response and less linear feel when hammering on the brakes. TRP mentioned that the metallic pads will deal with heat better but I haven’t had any concerns with the stock pads either so for me it comes down to feel. If you’re looking for more initial bite with a linear feel, toss in the performance resin. If you're looking for more solid feeling power throughout the stroke, choose metallic.
Conclusions
Each of the staple brakes from SRAM and Shimano provides excellent stopping power. While the TRPs offer at least as much power as the big players, the consistency and reliability of delivery makes these different. They’re also easy to work on and there are heaps of setup options available with three pad materials and five rotor sizes to choose from. A set of Shimano pads can even be used in a pinch – though you may want to have a backup of the performance resin pads ready to go.
The TRP DH-R Evo brakes have surprised and impressed me in every situation. No matter what I’ve thrown at them, they’ve exceeded expectations. Their light feel, easy access to power and excellent control make them a joy to ride. TRP did their homework with the DH-R Evo and it shows on the trail.
Age: 39
Height: 191cm/6’3"
Weight: 73kg/160lbs
Ape Index: 1.037
Inseam: 32”
Trail on Repeat: Changes as often as my mood.
Current Regular: Every test product spends time on Entrail
Comments
hongeorge
3 years, 11 months ago
Curious if you tried them with standard rotors? Tempted to try these, but I share wheels between bikes, so non-standard rotors are a no-go for me unless I buy two sets of brakes plus four rotors. Having a little extra clearance sounds like a good thing also.
Reply
KGR
3 years, 9 months ago
The manual says these will work with their 2.3mm rotors and 2.0mm rotors. That seems to be reasonable and offer some good choices. 1.8mm may be asking too much.
Reply
Mateusz Gawęcki
3 years, 11 months ago
Please read carefully again. They were tried with standard rotors first.
Reply
jwellford
3 years, 11 months ago
I’m not sure about this: I think when AJ says standard 203/180 rotors he’s just referring to “standard” rotor diameter. The corresponding pictures identify them as 2.3mm wide. I too am interested in how these perform with 1.8mm rotors.
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
That’s correct. My usual sized rotors were where I started, but they were always the 2.3mm rotor width.
Hongeorge, I haven’t tried them with standard width rotors. TRP claim they work fine with the thinner rotors but there would for sure be more piston exposed and it may require more frequent pad changes.
Reply
hongeorge
3 years, 11 months ago
Half a millimetre across two pistons/pads seems like nothing, I just wonder if that small amount would change the feel/travel noticeably when amplified b the lever.
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
I'll try and set some time aside to test this for you. I'll comment back when I have but it could be a week or two. Make sure you have comment notifications on!
Reply
hongeorge
3 years, 11 months ago
Reviews to order... now that's thorough :)
danimaniac
3 years, 11 months ago
Can you get Andrew and Cam to ride these for comparison with the A4 and Cura 4? These actually sound like a real contender. Does the lever have any trickery like Servowave/Swinglink or is the mechanical leverage linear? (Please do a teardown!)
> To improve lever feel, TRP started by moving to a smaller 9mm piston, down from the 10mm pistons in the master cylinders of the DHR and Quadiem brakes. Apparently the smaller piston increases the force in the system. In the calliper, the opposite is true; four 16mm hybrid ceramic/stainless pistons remain. This combination results in less pressure to bring the brakes to attention, something that was clear the first time I squeezed the lever. The new Hayes Dominion also features a 9mm master cylinder piston and similar, light access to the power.
About this: you say "apparently".. this is just physic's law: Force/area = Pressure. Pressure is the same at master and slave cylinders. But as slave area is much greater than Master area Force increases by the same factor. Hydraulic leverage. So only because of this the DHR-E is about 23% stronger than the previos DHR.
But because of this deadstroke is longer, because still the same volume of oil needs to be pushed around.
Dominion's Master cylinder is 9.15mm diameter ;-) *g*
On a sidenote: I think it's unfair to bring the larger rotors into the equation like TRP does. Because every single brake gets stronger and more heat resistant by increasing rotor size. But of course it feels awesome. But can you try if the 2,3mm rotors fit the Dominion A4?
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
Hi danimaniac.
I’m not sure how the apparently comment got in there. What you say is exactly what TRP shared with me and I’ve changed it back to reflect that. Thanks!
To be clear, the brakes were tested for most of the time on the usual rotor setup I run all brakes at. These outperformed in all ways. Bumping up to the bigger rotors only improved things again.
Thanks!
Reply
danimaniac
3 years, 11 months ago
Also: Great review, good read!
Sorry for the nitpicking above.. I just love nerding about brakes.
Reply
olaa
3 years, 11 months ago
Did you try with even larger rotor in the back? I'm trying it out on my new bike (whenever it shows up in these Covid times) to see if the heat management will be better. Following the logic of having a large rotor in front for power and in the rear for heat management.
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
I didn’t. Your theory is right, of course but I never found issue with heat management with the 203mm back there. I half expected to see it discoloured after the steep trail in hot conditions test but nada.
Reply
Eric Van Sickle
3 years, 11 months ago
As usual, NSMB review standards are amazing.
Curious to know how these compare to Hope Tech3 E4’s and what the long term value is for them. Can spare parts to fix issues be purchased?
Thanks,
Eric
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
Thanks heaps Eric!
No time on any Hope brakes but TRP have many of the parts needed to rebuild on their website. More than I’ve seen readily available – not saying you can’t get them through the LBS – from the main players.
Reply
SteveR
3 years, 11 months ago
As a clydesdale, it sounds like these are a contender for my next build, especially with the thicker rotors. But with all the talk about heat management- why not finned calipers? Yeah, I know- aesthetics, and they would hold more grunge- but still...
Reply
ollyh
3 years, 11 months ago
My guess is that fins on the callipers don’t help all that much. TRP had them on earlier brakes and these are apparently an improvement. Also, Shimano put the fins on their ice-tech pads and rotors, but not the callipers, so they don’t think it’s worthwhile either.
Reply
danimaniac
3 years, 11 months ago
If you have to fin the caliper the brake system is designed to fail:
Heat is being produced between the pads and the rotor. The resin (semimetallic, too) itself is rather bad at transferring heat, while braking, the pads'n backplates only touch the pistons and that little clip, which is so small, it could heat up, but would not transfer heat through the screw or splint holding the pads in. Leaves us with the pistons on that side. There's some contact area, most of it is fluid what you don't want to heat up, rest is seals that you don't want to heat up. Actual touching of the caliper body itself is in fourth degree through the fluid (and through air)
That's why the rotors shall take the heat. And by arriving cooler than the pads are while braking, because it went full circle, it will take more heat.
That's why I think if you need finned calipers the brake is designed to fail.
Reply
Lynx .
3 years, 11 months ago
Aj, good review, seems like TRP have stepped their game up again, really would love to try some of their brakes. As other suggested, would be good to let them other, heavier guys ride them and compare to the brakes they've tested.
Bit of a note on the article - you have the captions on the wrong images of the SLX and EVo brakes and the M8100 is an XT brake, not SLX, SLX is 7100/20, the *100 are the 2 piston brakes, *120 are the 4.
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
Argh, all the numbers! Thanks for the catch, MBB, I’ve updated to the correct set. 👊🏼
Reply
ru-tang
3 years, 11 months ago
Any thoughts to running these thicker rotors on Quadiems? I just got new rotors, shimanos, and there seems to be more lever throw than there used to be. It's making me think there is a bigger difference in the rotor thickness than I thought...or I need to re-bleed the system . . . .
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Ru-tang. It sounds like you would benefit from a bleed and/or some piston cheating. I've asked TRP about the compatibility of the thicker rotors w/ Quadiem's though and will report back when I hear from them.
Reply
rg1niner
3 years, 11 months ago
Hey AJ, I noticed that you were able to direct mount what looks like a Shimano 12s I-Spec EV shifter. On TRP's website I couldn't find an adapter for this connection. What adapter did you end up using?
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
Good catch! The brakes are i-Spec ii compatible and TRP is working on an adapter to work with the new i-spec EV and an update to their matchmaker so they play better with AXS. I'm currently using a modified Wolf Tooth i-spec EV to ii adapter with the ridge filed off so it will fit.
Reply
rg1niner
3 years, 11 months ago
Nice, I have a set of EVO's on the way and have been searching for the cleanest cockpit set up. Thanks for the info!
Reply
Andrew
3 years, 7 months ago
Hi there! I'm hoping to get some evo's this week and also a drivetain. What did you use? I prefer controls that come off without removing grips (push ons for life)
Reply
thaaad
3 years, 11 months ago
Any noise complaints? I watched a video by a popular Youtuber who had just purchased these the other day (not sure if he bought the rotors as well or stuck with his Sram rotors) and they were noisy as hell. Horrible sram warble, super squeaky in the rain, it was brutal. The rain squeak I can deal with since most brakes do that, but the sram warble is a complete deal breaker for me.
Reply
AJ Barlas
3 years, 11 months ago
No issues with trail noise when set up properly. The performance resin pads made a bit of noise when real wet but once warmed up (a few heavy stops) they were quiet. It was a similar experience with the sintered pads but I'd say in the wet the resin was a bit louder. That said, everyone's brakes – a mix of Shimano and SRAM – were making turkey sounds that day.
Reply
Jason West
3 years, 11 months ago
TRP DH-R Evo vs. Dominion A4 vs. Formula Cura. If you had a one choice?
Reply
danimaniac
3 years, 11 months ago
to (not) answer your question: With all I know today, I'd pick the Dominion over the Cura4 anyday. I think the TRP DH-R Evo is a nice third player in the market of brakes "as powerful as a Trickstuff Dirrettissima". [But that comparison might be a german thing. ]
I have a little excel-sheet calculating theoratical braking power of brakes. All three (and the TS-DRT, and Magura's MT5/7) deliver almost the same power (System Leverage as a combination of mechanical and hydraulic leverage) All the rest is friction in system (Dominion might be best in class), quality of hoses (pressure and stuff) and the rubbing partnership of pads and rotors.
Must say though: Like the appearance of the TRP Evo Master, would love to pair that with a silver MT-4pot caliper from Magura. Would make a hell of a brake, too!
Reply
Sean Chee
3 years, 11 months ago
This big boy is loving 223mm rotors becoming more commonplace. I've been running the galfer rotor in the front for the last 18 months. Every ride I've been happy with it. I'm looking forward to 223mm rotors coming down in price.
If they were more affordable, I would be up to try the 246mm rotors.
Reply
formartha
6 months, 3 weeks ago
Do you know what is the caliper piston size?
Reply
Please log in to leave a comment.