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REVIEW

Troy Lee Stage Helmet

Photos Deniz Merdano
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I recently reviewed Bell's convertible full face Super Air R and a couple years back I had a look at the Smith Mainline full face helmet. The TLD Stage full face is my favourite helmet of the three for a number of reasons which I will get into in this review.

I would prefer to not wear a helmet at all, which is obviously stupid, so my preference is a half-lid which is also obviously stupid on some of the gnarly stuff I tend to ride. Which brings me to what to wear to cover my scare. I have had concussions wearing both full face and open face lids. What I want the full face for is for my face. I have smacked my cheek on a log and got away with a bruise but I have heard so many stories of jaw breaks, dental work and cheek bone smashes that the fear of my face breaking has me reaching for the face cover. My face doesn't need anymore hindrances than it already has.

Other than the fact that the Stage has met all the right certifications, (CPSC 1203, CE EN1078, ASTM F1952, ASTM F2032, and AS/NZS 2063-2008) this helmet has two main features that make it stand out among the competition: it's light (TLD claimed 690g for M/L) and has ample venting (11 intakes and 14 exhaust ports). The helmet is intended for trail and enduro use with TLD recommending one of their DH specific helmets for downhilling and bike park riding.

The Polylite shell is fibre reinforced. It combines low density EPP with high density EPS. According to TLD, "The lower density EPP should increase the impact time of smaller hits, reducing the force on your brain and thus injury. In harder crashes the higher density EPS is intended to absorb the energy that the first layer can't handle." On top of all that material MIPS is used to deal with off-axis/rotational impacts.

The 3 sizes work according to my LBS, Obsession Bikes, that sells a lot of them, however 4 sizes would make it an even better fit for those noggins on the cusp of each size. Not an issue for me as the M/L fit my 59 cm head quite well. TLD provides 3 jaw pads (15mm,25mm/35mm), two neck roll pads (25mm/15mm) and two liners (10mm/13mm): all to help with fit.

I wanted to use the 25mm jawpads because the 35mm pads push a bit into my cheeks. The problem was that when I pushed the helmet for and aft as well as side to side, the jaw piece contacted my cheeks and chin a fair bit more than with the 35 mm pads. Both pads rest over my earlobe which I found to be a slight annoyance at first but it became unnoticeable over the course of the ride. The pressure on my cheeks is a slight discomfort that also goes away as the ride gets longer.

Ex TLD global category manager and still legend Stickman has a comprehensive and useful fit and padding guide.

The pad and liner fabric is X-Static tech used to avoid static electricity. The material on the pads and liners is touted as moisture wicking and odour reducing. I had no issues with odour and the brow liner was okay with keeping sweat out off my face but like all brow liners, there isn't much that can be done with the amount of sweat my mug produces.

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Snowy days are so fun but one wrong slip and it's a fast ejection to the slightly snow covered hardened forest floor; another good reason to wear a full face helmet. Our buddy Errol did a full snow eject just before this spot when we were shooting. Luckily he was fine.

The 11 well-sized intakes and 14 vents really kept me cool. The large mouth vent that is 3 finger widths (ya I tested it) away from my gob made breathing on the climbs as easy and minimally obstructed as I need. One of the advantages of these vents is what TLD claims as enhanced acoustics. "In the early testing days, we had a set criteria of features, one is being able to have the same acoustics as an open face, being able to hear your friends on a longer ride, conversing, aka-being able to hear everything. Once we got the helmet on more riders, dealers, customers, they really like this feature, to hear, and give a feeling like an open face." Personally, I prefer to drown out the sound of some of my yack-too-much-on-the-downs bike buddies but this engineering for hearing is a distinct advantage of the Stealth over the Mainline and all DH helmets I have worn.

Ironically, the day after writing this I was wearing a beanie for the cold under the Stage and tequilla maestro/Nsmb writer Ryan Walters asked me a question while we were standing around. I didn't hear what he said which was," What's the hearing like on that lid?" I blame it on ADD and beanie over ears sound blockage because normally the hearing is great. Or maybe Ryan's voice is on the mute hit list for my brain?

The Fidlock buckle works so easily, it makes me wish all helmets had them. The D-ring fastener on the Smith Mainline is probably better in a crash but what a pain it is to fiddle with. It makes me appreciate the Fidlock even more. There were times while using a D-ring fastener on hot days that I would get a claustrophobic moment when I needed the helmet off immediately but the D-ring denied fast removal. This is not an issue with the Fidlock.

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All the nice venting makes cold weather riding a bit cold but a skull cap keeps my noggin warm under the Stage.

The visor is easily adjusted using a 3 pronged wing nut. The stock bolt that came on the helmet would not screw all the way down for some reason. I swapped it out with the spare that came in the box (bolt in a box) which solved the problem. The side screws are tagged 'Smart screws'. They are plastic breakaway screws with anodized alloy washers. I guess that seems like a smart idea. Should the Fidlock buckle be a smart buckle? The vents smart vents? Can you tell I am a little bit done with labelling products smart?

tld sidebysidebell

One convertible and one full time full face. The Bell review is here: Bell Super Air R

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Thicker padding in the TLD compared to the Bell makes the TLD fit and feel more secure than the Bell, however the cheeks pads on the Bell are more comfortable.

tldfidlock

I heart Fidlock buckles in all helmets.

tld fidlock closed

The Fidlock closes and opens so easily.

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Adjustable and well-sized visor - easy to get out the way for field of vision issues and goggle storage.

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Big hole for the pie hole. This photo was taken in the summer. However, the other day in the depths of a winter freeze, I tried the same move with a slightly frozen bottle nozzle and rinsed my chin, cheeks, mouth and the helmet with ice cold water.

Bottom line

The helmet works great on the downs and the ups, it is light, breezy, comfortable, well-fitted for me, stocked with several useful features and personally I think it looks great.

9 different colours (my tester is called slate blue) are available.

Normal price: 400 CAD, some models are currently on sale at TLD: 225 CAD. More info at TLD.

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tdmsurfguy
+3 Andy Eunson Lu Kz MTBrent

After having a fox program with Fidlock I can never go back.

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Vertigo
+2 pedalhound Andrew Major

I wish I read this last week since I was debating between Stage and IXS Trigger FF.  I went with the Trigger since lighter, also DH certified, has a dial adjusts, and was same price on sale.  I don't you could go wrong with either.

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Ride.DMC
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I have an IXS Trigger FF, and one feature that I appreciate that I don't think was covered or mentioned in this TLD review is the adjustability of the dial clamp at the back.  Is it adjustable (up & down) on the TLD? The ability to move the clamp up & down really helped me tailor the fit of the Trigger FF.

When I was purchasing my FF I wanted to prioritize fit, and after trying on a few different brands it was IXS and Smith that fit my head the best (the other brands I tried were Bell & Fox - the LBS I was at did not have any FF TLD helmets).  It was the Fidlock buckle on the IXS that made me choose it over the Smith Mainline.

The simplicity and ease of use of the Fidlock is not something I ever thought I needed when I started looking for a new FF helmet, but now that I have experienced it, it would be very hard to go back to a D-ring style closure.  

It's nice to know that there is another option out there when it comes time to replace my Trigger FF.

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MarcusBrody
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There is no dial on the TLD. It's just a set of removable pads in the rear to dial fit.

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trailschnitzel
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I recently got a Stage after three years using a Trigger. I was worried about missing the adjuster. Now I’m almost happy missing at as it’s one less thing to fiddle with. The stage feels way safer do to it’s snug fit. And build quality we don’t have to start about. I liked my Trigger but the Stage feels better built. As for the looks I also like them way better but that’s of course a matter of taste. The trigger definitely doesn’t make your head look ginormous which I appreciate with my already large head.

I’m curious for hotter days because the trigger was quite airy - but I’m hopeful now about that too.

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Squint
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I too chose the Trigger because of the dial adjust, and 2 years later have no cause to regret. Cheaper than the TLD, similar weight and I haven't had any problems with hearing others.

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Ripbro
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I bought a MIPS trigger FF and returned it for the non-MIPS version. MIPS squeaked and drove me crazy. The adjustability of the dial and ability to move it up and down gives it a really great fit.

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Jotegir
+1 dhr999

I don't really get it when companies say stuff like "the helmet is intended for trail and enduro use with TLD recommending one of their DH specific helmets for downhilling and bike park riding." What's happening on your trail and "enduro" (?) rides that's so much safer than what you do in the bike park? I've ridden a LOT of bike parks, and typically the trails are build to a higher standard of safety and forgiveness than a similarly rated trial outside the bike park. Moreover, why would you want a less-safe helmet when you are between the tape, gassed, and breathing out your eyeballs on a long enduro stage? Aren't you more likely to make a mistake then compared to when you are fresh off the chairlift?

To me, these statements are drivel. Say it how it really is: This helmet passes XYZ safety standards and is excellent for the weight, but other products we offer are safer (read: this helmet is less safe than others).

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Tbone
+4 MarcusBrody Lu Kz dhr999 Pete Roggeman

I agree - the only thing I think they are getting at is the usually higher speeds reached in a bike park. However, we all know there are local trails outside the bike park where you can reach those  high speeds.

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DanL
+1 Lu Kz

What's your usage pyramid between half shell -> chinbar added -> Fullface ? Do you find your self not using the half shell on it's own and clipping the chinbar in ?
And where's those elbow pads? Feeling uncool wearing them ? 

rabble rabble

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Tbone
+2 Lu Kz DanL

Well first of all the elbows are almost always on but the shoot day was way too hot and Deniz is a slave driver. As for the chinbar - after the test period I have only worn both helmets in ff. The half Smith is the only half lid I have used and it's for night rides and big pedal days.

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DanL
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That's interesting to hear, I ended up only ever wearing my Switchblade in fullface mode, so I decided to just buy a fullface when I had to replace it, instead of having to carry another thing around to put on at the top of a climb; better to just hang my fullface off the handlebar/hafclip/etc
Thanks for an entertaining review!

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olaa
+1 Lu Kz

A small request for future helmet reviews: could you describe the headshape that it fits best? From more oval to round, and what possibilities there are to adapt the fit. I get that the best thing is to try on a helmet, but the reality is that the selection in the one bike shop can be underwhelming at best. That makes good reviews really important for the online shopping of products where fit is key. Blister review are really good at this when it come to ski boots.

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Jotegir
+1 olaa

The fit of the Troy Lee Stage is closer to the classic egg shape than the more contemporary cantaloupe, but riders who enjoy a helmet that leans towards an aubergene shape won't be disappointed with the Stage's multiple strap mount and included pad options.

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olaa
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Excellent! That should be the new standard for head shape descriptions!

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pedalhound
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I have been poking around these light FF helmets for a while but have yet to pull the trigger, on my last Whistler trip I tried on a bunch of them and my favourites were there IXS Trigger FF and the TLD Stage. The half lid style dial adjustment is just so good...but I hear that others prefer the more DH style of the Stage...either way both great helmets but I think I may end up with the Trigger FF...now just waiting for some sales.

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rigidjunkie
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I have one of these and I swear it breaths better than my half shell.  I think the chin bar actually directs more air into your head.

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MTBrent
0 Lu Kz JVP

The only reason I see not to wear a FF is if you're concerned about the occasional funny looks and comments from other half-shell riders.

Except for when my kids are on the Shotgun seat, I wear my Stage on every ride, XC to DH.  Light, ventilated, comfy, Fidlock.  Perfect.

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JVP
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Freeeeedooooome!  I hate the restricted feeling of full face helmets. I have a TLD Stage that I now wear when I should, but I still don't love soggy, clammy, sweaty cheek pads and feeling closed in. Until I got this nicely vented thing I only wore FF in park, and I rarely ride park anymore. Granted I pedal a lot and sweat hard, so YMMV.

If I break my jaw, I'll live. My nose is already crooked and I was never going to be a model. More concerned about TBI, and many half lids are just as good in that respect.

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Jotegir
+1 Andrew Major

" More concerned about TBI, and many half lids are just as good in that respect."

Ever see that classic Tyson clip where he does two jabs to the kidneys to get his opponent to lower his head and then does a powerful upper cut to the chin for the KO?

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JVP
+1 Andy Eunson

Sweet, wear a full face when you're boxing.

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Curveball
+3 Lu Kz JVP Andy Eunson

It's a lot easier to snot-gun with an open face helmet.

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Jotegir
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The important consideration. Full face helmets also don't have a beer access port, unless you're using a Proframe and a straw.

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Squint
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FF are so common now (on the shore anyway) I doubt there's many funny looks anymore. 

I went OTB as a teen about 35 years ago and broke a bunch of teeth, that's damage I've been dealing with ever since. 

I hear some people feel closed in with FF; on the contrary I now feel vulnerable and exposed in a half shell.

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MTB_THETOWN
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Tld stage seems great, but it doesn't quite fit my head. Instead I use a Specialized Gambit. I think the TLD helmets are rounder and the Specialized are more oval.

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Grnmachine02
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Aside from those Smith goggles, any other input on which ones fit the stage?  I love the helmet, but I've tried two different pairs of goggles and the helmet pushes them against my nose almost pinching it off.  granted, I've yet to try the Smith goggles.

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TobiasWildebeast
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I like my Stage but it is miles hotter than an open face. At 14C and above you clearly feel it.

Unrelated but I also get the feeling that cradle-less helmets share the crash impact better than those with cradles. Or maybe it’s just the thickness of the helmet vs typical open face lids?

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delusional
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> "The lower density EPP should increase the impact time of smaller hits, reducing the force on your brain and thus injury. In harder crashes the higher density EPS is intended to absorb the energy that the first layer can't handle."

I can't help notice the language on this ("should", "is intended") seems to suggest that these aren't tested at all? I think this is just standard helmet construction, so perhaps I'm being overly picky, but that isn't language that fills me with confidence!

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