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Review

The Most Intuitive Shifter I Have Used

Photos Cam McRae (mostly)
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There was a time when most people didn't think much about shifters, because they were all crap. When I first started riding bikes with multiple cogs, it was pretty simple; two aluminum blades mounted to the downtube of your bike. You had to take a hand off the bars, reach down and grope for your lever of choice (right hand for rear derailleur and left hand for front) and then tilt the lever towards the back of your bike if you wanted a larger cog and towards the front if you wanted a smaller cog. On cheaper bikes, the shifter was attached to the stem, which was a little more convenient for shifting but quite inelegant. These were friction shifters, before indexed shifting appeared, so there was likely some fishing around required to get the chain well aligned, particularly on downshifts.* There were bar end shifters for bikes with downturn handlebars back then but not for 10 year old kids like me (who were only riding 5-speeds anyway).

*I will be using the automotive standard to describe shifts here so a down shift means a lower gear/larger cog. There doesn't seem to be universal agreement on this in cycling.

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Eventually frame builders brazed on bosses for downtube shifters but my favourites were like these 1980s Campagnolos that clamped on.

The first thumb shifters I owned were Shimano Deore XT on my first mountain bike, which I still have, 40 motherfucking years later. They continue to work perfectly. Or they would if that bike wasn't in pieces. These were also friction shifters so again, some fishing around was required. There was no clicking into gear which is likely hard to imagine for riders who have never experienced that, but it wasn't as bad as it sounds. In fact, some people continue to advocate for friction.

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It's a little corroded at the moment, but this gen. 1 Deore XT shifter still works perfectly.

Once Indexing arrived, things improved dramatically. My favourites of that early era were Shimano trigger shifters, but I have to say that I liked GripShift as well, which was SRAM's very first product. The knock with both of those systems, particularly in relation to downhill riding, was that you couldn't brake while shifting, or even have your finger on the lever for every shift. If you were downshifting on Shimano triggers you could still shift, but with Gripshift it wasn't feasible at all.

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SRAM still makes Grip Shift, which was their very first product. Initially, before the company made derailleurs, it was designed to work with Shimano, Suntour and other derailleurs. I wonder if it could be made to work with AXS?

Shimano eventually tried to make it possible to shift while you were braking with your actual brake lever, with their Dual Control levers. Basically you pushed the brake lever down to pull the cable and downshift, and raise your lever to go the other way. If that sounds like a bad idea, Shimano could use you back in 2002 or so. As it turns out, riders often put downward pressure on their brake levers when they aren't planning to shift at all, and having your levers move while you are trying to slow your bike in dicey circumstances is very disconcerting. In the world of road bikes 'brifters' work just fine but for mountain bikes they were an ill-conceived flop.

Once we got to shifters that could be operated entirely with your thumb, things were looking pretty good. You could keep your brake finger on the lever and even use your brakes while shifting if that became necessary.

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Introduced in the XTR line in 2004, these are Shimano "Dual Control" levers. The brake levers also controlled your shifting, like a modern road bike. They were not a home run. I wonder if any sponsored riders, who posed for ads riding along holding up two fingers, tried to talk Shimano out of producing these.

Eagle AXS

The advent of electronic shifting, and its proliferation in MTB with Shimano's Di2 and SRAM's AXS systems, was entirely different. No longer was shifting about pulling or releasing cables; shifters became buttons sending a signal. SRAM's first electronic shifter wasn't particularly well-loved and I continue to struggle to get along with it. I switch bikes often so moving between systems that have become innate and those that are less so, can create problems. At some point I had two AXS bikes and the shifting was set in different directions. On one, the top bottom was for upshifting and on the other it was for downshifting. Even now, when I'm on a first gen. AXS shifter, I sometimes glitch and go the wrong way, despite making sure they are set to my preference. There is something about the layout of those shifters that my brain fails to translate into the mechanical action that occurs at the derailleur. The updated AXS Rocker Controller (as opposed to the Pod Rocker Controller) is a little better for me but still not great.

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Two versions of the gen. 1 AXS shifters. The original on the left and the AXS Rocker Controller on the right.

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Two versions of the AXS Pod controller. The original two-button version on the left and the "AXS Pod Controller Rocker Paddle" on the right. They both use the same electronic base and are interchangeable.

The Pod

I seemed to be in the minority when the Pod shifter was introduced because it was an immediate improvement for me. There was still something of a disconnect but it was easy to shake and has since become relatively natural for me. Or so I thought before trying the Rocker, or rather, the AXS Pod Controller Rocker Paddle, named as such likely to differentiate it from the AXS Rocker Controller which is the alternate version of the original AXS Controller. If that makes any sense.

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There are two clamps you can use with Pod Controllers. In the background is the Discrete Clamp, which is my preference and in the foreground you have the SRAM Pod Bridge Clamp which acts like the Matchmaker system and mounts to your brake lever. If your lever placement preferences involve relatively level brake levers, you're going to want to be discrete.

Rocker Control

As soon as I tried the newest rocker, I knew it was the shifter for me. It took my some time to figure out why, but from the beginning there was a connection between the rocker's action, which is doing nothing mechanical aside from pushing a button that sends an electronic signal, with what the derailleur is doing.

Another bonus of the rocker is that it gives you a little more leverage over the process. This isn't helpful because it's hard to push the buttons on the original pod controller, because it is not. This is more about subtlety because the rocker version gives you more feel. If you aren't quite ready to shift, but think you may want to very soon, you can begin to apply pressure to the rocker below the threshold required to engage a shift and then with a small amount more pressure, when the time is perfect, you can send that signal.

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You can control the Rocker Paddle from the middle and use it like a toggle in either direction or...

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You can hit one side or the other deliberately.

I think what makes me like the the rocker is that it connects the two actions together, making it feel like there is just one button that you are toggling back and forth, rather than the two distinct signals you are actually sending. For whatever reason, it works well with my cranial faculties. One thing I particularly appreciate is that you can put your thumb in one spot and from there shift in either direction.

Last night I was on a night ride on the original pod and, while I don't recall messing up any shifts, I hesitated a few times because it didn't feel natural. I managed to get it done for the most part but it defaulted back to something I had to dedicate some grey matter to. When you are riding challenging trails, up or down, any amount of spare brain power can be put to use keeping you moving forward and out of harm's way.

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If you are so inclined, you can also shift the Rocker Paddle like a trigger, in either direction.

Installing the Axs Pod Controller Rocker Paddle

This is one of the easiest tasks you'll ever tackle on your bike. To begin, loosen the clamp, whether you have the integrated SRAM Bridge Clamp or the Discrete Clamp, which, in case I haven't mentioned it enough, I prefer. It's just one T25 Torx fitting either way.

Once you have loosened the bolt you need to turn the shifter within its circular clamp so that the small arrow-like point on the back of the pod aligns with the gap in the clamp. Then you simply push it out.

Once removed, you can lift the pod button holder off the electronic portion of the device, like opening a clam shell, from the end that mates with the clamp.

To place the rocker in the same spot as the two-button mechanism, align the two nodules inside the rocker with the indents in the pod and then push it closed. Once the clam is closed, you can align the point with the gap in the clamp and press it in.

If you are buying a Pod Controller you now have the choice between the rocker or the original pod, and you can still purchase the original controllers in several variations if you prefer one of those. You an also purchase the Rocker Paddle on its own.

In case you are wondering, I have run the table with T-type for the time being. Once I started running with this topic, I was like a dog with a bone. Apologies to all luddites and curmudgeons. I feel your pain. Or, more accurately, I remember it from when I was both of those things.

The updated Rocker on its own, as an update, seems very hard to find right now, but you can buy an entire unit for 150 USD.

Every SRAM shifter, high tech and otherwise.

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ClydeRide
+11 utopic Michael Klein delarscuevas Mammal ShawMac Timinger Schmolson Nick Meulemans Cam McRae pedalhound Hardlylikely

Man, I cant be the only Shimano fanboy that reads these things and just shrugs, can I?

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delarscuevas
+2 Kristian Øvrum Cam McRae

+1 for support! All the other cable guys and gals are probably Just out riding their bikes. 🙂

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Kenny
+4 Cam McRae cedrico Chad K Schmolson

The index finger operation is neat. They're all cable, but I have 2 SRAM bikes and 1 Shimano and I get used to being able to shift to faster gears via index finger and miss it when I get back on one of the SRAM bikes.

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Sethimus
+3 Cam McRae lennskii Thermal

now do a comparison with the leap components 3d printed ones

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Sethimus
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zirbel twister/zshift would also be interesting

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NickM
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These shifters look so good in person but the feel is 100% jank and feels likely to break at any moment - am I the only one that feels this way?

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cam@nsmb.com
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Which shifters are you referring to Nick? Quickshift? Or Zirbel?

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dolface
+1 Thermal

FWIW I have the Quickshift and love it. It did take some getting used to though because it is so fast/sensitive.

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JNK
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Looking at this, does the Quickshift replace the toggle on the 'new' two button model (shown above)? Looks like it replaces the Gen 1 shifter?

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mr-magou
+3 Jotegir Kristian Øvrum Nick Meulemans

At the risk of sounding cynical, that’s twice now that Sram have released a less than ergonomically optimal AXS controller touch point, only to offer an improved one as an “upgrade” a year later.

The replacement rocker paddle for the original AXS was universally considered an improvement, so to then introduce a two button pod interface that nobody asked for seemed like a weird move at the time. And then lo and behold, soon thereafter comes the “upgraded” version. 

My partner has GX t-type on both her bikes, and we had to swap/trade the pods for the older style controller because we couldn’t get the pod into a comfortable position to work with her thumb. Potentially this could have solved it, but too late now.

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neologisticzand
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Ironically, I preferred the OG AXS shifter over the rocker style but for transmission, I love the new style rocker though. Big improvement over buttons.

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Jotegir
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It's too bad that neither T-Type nor AXS mesh well with the word conspiracy. There'll be no clever porimanteau here. I'll tell the children.

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TomM
+2 Cam McRae finbarr

I installed the rocker on my GX pod a few weeks ago and I do like it better than the buttons.  It was $22USD from The Lost Co.  It looks like they ran out of stock and they don't ship to Canada?

https://thelostco.com/products/sram-pod-rocker-paddle-upgrade-right

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Ride.DMC
+1 Cam McRae

Lost Co ships to Canada - but certain vendors (presumably SRAM is one of them) won't allow them to ship their products to Canada. I think Fox/Marzochi are another.

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Ride.DMC
+1 Cam McRae

Cam - I have the original gen 1 AXS shifter and I find that it can be toggled just fine as you describe doing with the Rocker paddle.  I did have to play around with the position quite a bit, mainly because I run my brakes so far inboard (I also use matchmaker).

But I wanted to ask if you use the AXS app and have you played around with it?  

My favourite features are the ability to change the orientation of the shift (up on the shifter is up on the cog, down on the shifter is down on the cog) and I really like the ability to change how many gears I can dump (or add) at once by just holding the shift for 1.5 seconds.  It sort of reminds of the old Shimano rapid rise being able to change 5 gears at all at once (my preferred setting - but I think you could set it so you could change all 12 gears with a single push & hold if you wanted to).

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cam@nsmb.com
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I have used it and recognized the rocker function but never got used to it. I think part of the issue is having two options for your thumb; either shifting with the rocker in both directions or using the secondary thumb button for one and the rocker for the other. For whatever reason that shifter never clicked for me.  Also, with my thumb in the middle of that rocker I don't find I have the leverage to make either shift. It feels like there is more of a valley or something to me, while the Pod Rocker shifts perfectly for me from that spot. I also prefer the more positive click of the pod.

I have used the app to swap the controls to my preference (lower button/rocker for downshifting) but not much else. I don't find I often want to make more than two or three shifts at once so I don't have the 'shift all' feature enabled. I should probably give it a go though.

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tdc_worm
+1 Jotegir

Yeah...I run flatter brakes.  Blame it on my MX background or my love or riding steeps, but the bridge was a miss on Sram's part in my opinion....it is way too biased in the wrong direction rather than sitting in a happy medium.  The problem I have with the discreet mount is that it has so little surface area on the clamp, that it routinely rotates on my bars, when torqued to spec.

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lennskii
+1 Thermal

Leap Components Quickshift has been my favourite of the bunch. Used with a standard bar mount (bonus if paired with something like a OneUp hinged clamp or BikeYoke split clamp) it sits super close to the bar (less unwrap of hand), is intuitive (Left button to shift the chain left, Right button to shift chain right) and is quite affordable (about $25-30 USD).

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hongeorge
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I cant find it right now, but I'm sure i read somewhere that the rocker upgrade won't work with the GX paddle shifter, only the XO/X01 versions? Is that true?

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cam@nsmb.com
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We may be talking about two different rockers. The one I’ve been impressed with works with the pod. 

Edit (Cooper answered your question below)

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cooperquinn
+1 Cam McRae

No, if you have a controller that came with GX - and the v1 paddle - you can upgrade. This is my favorite SRAM shifter - the older controller with upgraded paddle. I'm not a huge fan of the pods, even with Cam's upgrade. But it's just a preference thing.

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cam@nsmb.com
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Merci Coop!

(Also LMK if you have some pods you'd like to trade!)

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hongeorge
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no, it's the GX pod I have

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danielshiels
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No disrespect to sram but sachs huret had gripshift on cannondale bikes I worked on in the late 90s before they were bought out

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