Beggars Would Ride
The Lamentable Invisibility Of Nuance
There’s an occasional Groundhog Day sense of repetition that comes with writing a regular column. Extrapolate the exercise of writing to a monthly, or bi-monthly, or weekly deadline out for ohhh, thirty or so years, and it gets really difficult to remember if the topic that I set out to write is the same topic that I’ve already written about once before. Twice. A hundred times. Basically, my memory goes back about three or four columns. Even then, it’s hit or miss, since I tend to forget what I wrote almost immediately. Keeping track of what I may have said a year ago is iffy. Expecting me to remember something I stated a decade ago (probably emphatically and with deep conviction at the time) is a lost cause.
So, forgive me if you’ve heard this one before. These columns come about from a messy organic process triggered by bike rides and conversations, sometimes the combination of the two. This one came about from a discussion during a ride a few weeks ago, where we were talking about the aesthetics of top tube shape, and whether or not the decision to add a hump to what had been a straight top tube on the previous iteration of the bike in question had any practical merit. One of my riding companions noted that “it looks very marketing department approved. Why bother with Bold New Graphics when you can install a marketing hump? It makes a much bolder statement.”
Now, you might argue that adding a hump to a top tube for purely aesthetic reasons, in the hopes of selling more bikes, or differentiating this new model as somehow more zesty than the old one, is a waste of resources. An exercise in vanity with no real purpose. Nevertheless, that new hump catches the eye, and therefore your attention. Mission accomplished. But then again, there is something garish, almost vulgar, when it comes to dramatically shaping frame tubes purely for the sake of visuals. In my book, that’s right up there with fake hood scoops on Japanese cars or massive tailfins on older American ones. Some people love that stuff, but to me it’s the stylistic equivalent of TYPING IN ALL CAPS. Unnecessary, and therefore a stylistic problem that could have been executed more cleanly.
Gonna have to hypocritize myself here. While I may have my aesthetic doubts about humped top tubes, I do love a good curved top tube. Not exactly functional, but mighty pretty. Curve > Hump, fight me in the comments.
But, as I have realized time and time again, that’s just my opinion, man. I prefer my “things” subtle. Not a fan of bright colors or loud noises, don’t like drawing attention to myself, prone to obsessing over minutiae to the point that sometimes I get blinded by big and bold new things. I am much more comfortable blending in than standing out, unless of course blending in means dressing in fashionably bright clothes and yelling a lot. I realize, in marketing terms, that I am probably not living in the opportunity rich part of the target bell curve. The statistics on the ratio of extravert to introvert people in the world vary widely depending on the study, but generally land at extraverts being in the majority. And I would lay good money down on the odds that whoever is trying to sell you your next bike is absolutely an extravert.
Combine the high likelihood of extraversion in the marketing department with the very well documented reality that ALL of us, introverts and extraverts alike, are wired for stimulus response in a way that makes us react to loud noises, flashes of light, top tube humps and bold new graphics. Even if that reaction is jarring, it’s a reaction, and in marketing terms that’s the whole point.
So, it doesn’t matter if potentially half the target market is on the introvert side of things, the stuff we are being sold is going to be sold with Sizzle! Pizzazz! Noise! Bright Colors! Bold New Graphics! Top Tube Humps! Hype! Because that is what grabs our attention. These are the things that cause a response in our not so evolved brains. Thanks a lot, amygdala…
When it comes to marketing, there is not a ton of space allocated for nuance. Quiet marketing is possibly at work behind the scenes of some savvy brands that have a clearly thought out brand ideology and are not totally invested in reaching for exponential growth. Buuuut, most brands are very actively courting growth. And so nuance and subtlety just get in the way of top of funnel, bottom of funnel, click here, buy now strategies.
The same parts of our brains that respond to Make The Logo Bigger marketing are also at work in how we engage with the world. We respond more viscerally to bad news than good; as a result the news algorithms are all tailored to deliver us more of what we will react to, spend more time digesting, pass along to our friends in order to bum them out as well. We are more fascinated by danger and pulled along by the associated adrenal response than we are to soothing influences, and so we find ourselves glued to the crash reels while ignoring the ASMR video of someone walking through a rainforest. When was the last time any of you watched all the way through one of Joey Schusler’s beautiful and mesmerizing videos? But we probably all watched Semenuk’s last shredfest. Repeatedly.
Man, that gem from Joey and my old editor Brice Minnigh stands up. Not flashy, not shredly, raw and quiet and so damn good.
I can’t help but extrapolate. It’s what my brain does while I sit around being a quiet introvert. So, I extrapolate out the way that our bikes evolve, and the way the trails we build evolve, and the way our riding evolves, and how that all happens in a perpetual cycle of vision and revision. At times it feels like we have come light years from the crusty old days of rigid 15-speed bikes with fragile parts and clunky footwear. Obstacles that I used to avoid as wheel wrecking catastrophes are now used to boost over rock gardens that I once would have gingerly tiptoed through. Carefully sculpted berms hold so much cornering force and compression that I now can worry about burping tires, whereas I can vividly remember a time when there was No Such Thing to be found on any trail, anywhere. Air, so much air. The worth of a bike these days can be measured by how easy it is to pull up into the air, how well it behaves during that upward then downward transition, and how capably the suspension absorbs that landing, as well as how much of that the bike can take before things start to fall apart. The physical, technological and cultural landscape is so much different now that it could be argued that most of us are participating in an entirely different sport than we or our forebearers were just a half a human generation ago. At least that is how it looks on the leading edge.
If we were all risk averse introverts (for the record, I am NOT saying here that all introverts are naturally risk averse, or that only extroverts chase the ragged edge. I bet Semenuk is an introvert at heart) wired for subtlety and nuance, it’s likely that we would not have evolved to this place. Hell, maybe mountain biking would never have started happening in the first place. There have to be wildpeople, those who need to find the physical limits of what we can do. We, as a species, need all aspects of our various personalities to evolve. But I sure do wish that we were more capable of celebrating the nuances, more outwardly appreciative of the meditative, more responsive to subtle cues.
For every moment of tire folding berm shralping, there’s a subtle body weight shift to maintain traction on a sticky slab. For each heart in the throat, warp-speed pull up on the bars, there’s a timing of the pedals through a rock garden. For every adrenaline flushed barely saved highside there’s a quiet shift of the hips and knees initiating a turn. Without all these carefully learned subtleties and nuances, the big moves would be mostly yardsales. We tend to take the subtle for granted, overlook the nuanced, as our attention focuses on the bright lights, the bold colors, the big adrenal surge.
Zach White lives just down the road from me, and the amount of time he has been spending up in the aspen this season is beginning to bum me out. But he's been snapping some bangers while out ripping people's legs off, and I am very thankful for that.
Ah well, this is the way of life. Confluence and compromise. I’m gonna stop staring at my belly button now and go ride a bike with a top tube hump and some seriously hardcore aspirations. The leaves are turning and this one trail up in the high country is a tunnel of gold right now. There’s a velveteen silence that the fallen leaves lend to the trail. It’s a good time to pedal and meditate. Not a single berm will be shralped.
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Jose Espinal
7 months, 1 week ago
MY COMPUTER STAYS WITH ALL CAPS ON TO HONOUR MF DOOM
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Mark
7 months, 1 week ago
My take on people that can't experience, understand and appreciate nuance is that they never learned, or more properly were never taught when they were younger. Then suddenly they've reached some age in adulthood where they just stop learning. They've basically accumulated all the knowledge they're ever going to know with possibly the exception of some small tidbits that are probably highly relevant to survival or avoiding some sort of catastrophe. But even those situations may not provide enough impetus. So unless people were lucky enough to get turned on to the potential joy of learning or got bitten by the bug of science and/or philosophy being cool, most people seem to hit a relatively low point on the journey of knowledge and stall there like a lonely car on the side of some barren highway.
Experience tells me the only way to get that thing jumpstarted and moving again is with some gentle persuasion and enthusiasm in the form of a friendly conversation that is more about what-iffing than trying to win a point. If anyone has pointers on how to deftly execute that please let us all know, it'll make the world a much better place.
PS - thanks again for a good read that gets the juices flowing.
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Ziggy
7 months, 1 week ago
I recommend psychedelics for these situations.
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James Heath
7 months, 1 week ago
That's a recommendation I might have to try. The way some people seem immune to learning is really beyond me... Information is literally everywhere, how can they not absorb at least some of it by virtue of having their eyes open? Unless loads of people just have really bad undiagnosed sight problems... so bad that they can't even see what they're not seeing...
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Andy Eunson
7 months, 1 week ago
So many thoughts going through my mind reading this article. This morning I was listening to a YouTube video about sociological tipping points. The context was climate change and how we have approached or are approaching tipping points in renewable energy, electric vehicles etc. it starts with a few and soon enough everyone is on the bandwagon. Fashion, I read once, is most important in uptight societies. Must wear the latest trend or risk standing out.
Bikes and other things have a ton of this fashion sense. Headset cable routing? Mullets, 29, 27.5. Riser bars, saddle all the way forward, etc. go buy some potato chips. The bag says organic with sea salt and the bag has a mat finish. Must be healthy. Yeah nah. My granola this morning was that. Second ingredient was sugar.
Read those ingredients, think about that cable routing, look at yourself in the mirror in that Pee Wee Hermanesc suit.
I read an interesting article several years back about how our thinking changes as we age. We go from fluid thinking to crystallized thinking in our mid 50s. Young folks will be more likely to come up with new theories and ideas whereas old people know what they know. He pointed out Charles Darwin who had great success when he was young but became miserable in his 50s because he had no new ideas. I think it was Bach who was similar in that he composed radical music when younger but found satisfaction teaching when he got older.
So yeah we need young people to push boundaries as well as cautious people too. Need that balance
The old economic ideals from the 40s and 50s and later worked well then, or we thought they did, but look where we are now. Society needs new fresh ideas from the younger generation. Not the old fucks that got us into this mess. Maybe we need an upper age restriction on voting. Easier for me. I could sit out front and holler at kids with their noisy skateboards and pants well below their waist. HEY. BE QUIET OUT THERE. HAUL UP THOSE DRAWERS LIKE MINE, HALFWAY TO MY TITS. YOU LOOK STUPID.
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
Upper age restrictions on voting AND holding office sounds like a damn fine idea!
I am noticing that my thinking is getting slower as I age, but in some ways more flexible. I harbor much less conviction about things these days - don't get as dogmatic or as cemented to my viewpoint as I may have a couple decades ago. But I definitely feel the way that ideas germinate is changing. It's getting quieter in my head. Absolutely agreed on the societal tipping points, as well as the cyclical nature of trends and fashion.
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Hawkinsdad
7 months, 1 week ago
Thanks, Mike, for yet another engaging set of musings. I've outlived the warranty and I'm fast approaching upper age. If I was a carton of milk, it'd be unwise to take a gulp. I'm not sure my mind is any quieter with untreated ADHD and my skull full of words. However, I do find that there is benefit in being a failed idealist. It makes me realize that despite my previously inflexible ideals, most of us fail forward as best we can, given our limited skills, patience, wisdom, intellects, morals, or experience, etc. As an introvert who serves the public, I get peopled out by the end of the week and clear my head in the forests. I'm leaning towards something less flashy than my orange Yeti for my next bike, maybe something green, although my current bike reminds me of my first real bike, a flame orange 1973 Peugeot road bike.
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Lynx .
7 months, 1 week ago
Absolutely not, could not imagine if only younger people voted. With the current trend, they'd abolish actual physical/scientific gender and claim everyone is equal, take every other day off because they were mentally tired, etc,. etc,.......... instead of what is truly to be strived for that everyone should be given equal opportunity and justly compensated for it - just look at what Trudeau has managed to do to Canada. If you want to see just how un-equal we are you only need to look at DH Pro racing, this last US Open, the winner of the womens' class would have placed 74th in the mens', 27 seconds behind 1st place man on a 3 minute course.
If I'm doing a manual labour job like moving and stacking bags of cement and I can stack 200 bags a day and then a female is employed and she can only move 120, I sure as hell don't expect her to get paid the same as me.
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Andy Eunson
7 months, 1 week ago
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Ziggy
7 months, 1 week ago
I think we need to be careful with painting generations, genders etc. with a broad brush. I live in a college town and let me tell you some of these young adults I’ve had the pleasure to get to know are amazing. They hustle! Work multiple jobs to survive and put themselves through school. Genuinely kind and evolved souls. Comparing them to myself at the same age they blow me out of the water.
Remember too that the young people today are the ones that will be wiping our butts tomorrow at the old folks home. Maybe out of self interest we should strive to be extra kind and open towards them.
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Shmarv
7 months ago
And if everybody on site enjoys being around a person who only stacks 120 bags but hates the one stacking 200, then it's an easy decision to can the miserable company.
How about we leave politics for reddit forums, mmkay?
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Lynx .
7 months ago
Not politics, it's shoved in your face by the "nice people" all the time, and I for one am sick of the BS. Who gives a flying fvck if no one likes the guy stacking 200 bags, it's manual labour, it's not a social hang out, he's being productive and getting shit done, do your own work and don't mind what the other person is doing, as long as they're doing their job and not interfering with you doing yours. And WHY would the person doing more work be more miserable than the one not, damn curious? Guessing you're just one of the many fvcking up society these days who don't like to do hard work, but want to get paid well for doing sweet Fvck all.
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Cr4w
7 months, 1 week ago
Watching the olds in my world become unable to process and integrate new ideas has really informed how I approach my own changing sensibilities as I accelerate towards that age myself. Don't hold grudges/learn to process and let go, remain curious, try new things, explore a lot of new ideas: keep living in the present and change with it. All the olds in my life checked out of new thinking at a certain age, possibly because of the demands of work and child rearing. But it doesn't have to be like that. Stay adaptable to stay young.
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Perry Schebel
7 months, 1 week ago
reminds me of a william gibson quote: The one single way in which we can choose to not get old: by choosing not to be militant nativists of the era in which we first got laid.
but yeah, always striving to maintain curiosity (whilst keeping crushing cynicism in check). kid raising was actually a bit of a mental refresh for me - unjaded wonder is a precious thing.
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Dave Smith
7 months, 1 week ago
He said that in his 30s and I often wonder how well that quote has aged for that guy...
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Cr4w
7 months, 1 week ago
You don't slow because you get old. You get old because you slow down.
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
Riiiiiight.
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cxfahrer
7 months, 1 week ago
Over here the young people (16-24) are the ones with the most dogmatic views (xtinction rebellion, radical left, neo-nazi etc.), it were the 60+ that kept the "old" democratic parties from a total desaster in the east German elections lately.
I always try to understand such extreme views, but at 65 I am still fast enough in my mind to recognize the mechanisms behind such views. Thomas Mann calls it "rabulisms" in his book Zauberberg...
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Andy Eunson
7 months, 1 week ago
I was like that at that age. I’d vote in a way I thought was good for me. And if it was good for me it was good for everyone. I’m trying to be better now. I’ll vote for what’s better for most of us. I see the right wing as being selfish now. "Why should my taxes pay for that?" I n fact my life no matter which party runs the show will not change appreciably.
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Mark
7 months, 1 week ago
That's why I've take such a shine to an Indigenous perspective on life. It's not about individualism and what works for me, it's about living a connected life with all other beings.
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Lucky Legs
7 months, 1 week ago
Dan Dennet has written and lectured on memes. Rupert Sheldrake is an expert on morphogenetic fields. there is no original thought possible unless there is a suitable mind to receive it. Plenty of fertile minds for the man-made climate change hoax. Not so many for the idea the industrial military/government complex is set to destroy the world in order to eke out the last grain of profit. Of course, these example topics are incredibly nuanced and yet are rammed down our throats by extroverts with unlimited resources. No room for an introvert.
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Dave Smith
7 months, 1 week ago
It's a craft and attention to nuance that is missing throughout the industry.
As an advertising/marketing professional, I always love how things like frame design and colours on frame are blamed on the brand/marketing team. On more than all of the occasions that I've worked on bike campaigns, the product is usually presented to me as a photograph in its finished form with the industrial design, colour ways and graphical embellishments already decided upon by product folks who "don't believe in brand marketing".
also nothing says nuance like a Buddhist monk/snowboarder feeling the air flow over his hand in Jordan Manley's, Treeline. Goddamn, I miss this kind of filmmaking in action sports.
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
I lost count of the conversations where, as the marketing stooge who the engineers think is too dumb to understand anything, I observed that the hydroformed hump on a dirt jump bike was gonna bum out a lot of people, including the athletes who had to fling their feet over the damn hump, or that a sloping top tube on a cross bike was not a great idea, or that making the logos huge on a downtube were not going to make these design touches less noticeable, or that every model should also be available in black since that is guaranteed to sell whereas hot pink may only be good for a certain segment of the buying population for a portion of the buying season... So, yeah. I guess it isn't really marketing's fault.
Unless you talk to an engineer. Then it's ALWAYS marketing's fault.
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Dave Smith
7 months, 1 week ago
The war stories after 25+ years...
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Brad Nyenhuis
7 months, 1 week ago
Yes, it IS always marketing's fault.
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Cr4w
7 months, 1 week ago
Semenuk is absolutely 100% without a doubt an introvert.
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Perry Schebel
7 months, 1 week ago
you on a privateer, mike? not many humpty designs out there these days (thankfully); it's a bold aesthetic choice that offends my delicate introverted sensibilities.
on the other hand, i've got a 1970 schwinn typhoon (design ancestor to the above merlin) - whose graceful radii i love. fascinating how we (ok, some of us) can be emotionally affected by the curvature of a tube.
also (mike) - stumbled upon your old review of the newsboy - written 30 years ago (!).
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
I stand guilty of loving cruiser curves (but in a very conditional way) but not being overly fond of humps. I had some fun on that Newsboy, even if I could never really get the rear brake to work.
Privateer? Mmmmaaaayyyybe.
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roil
7 months, 1 week ago
Someone on that other website fixed the 161's hump - 161 fixed
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Lynx .
7 months, 1 week ago
I guess in this day and age a virtual bike is probably the next big thing coupled with a 3D virtual world to ride in, other than that it shows nicely how the bike could look sans that horrific kink, nice photoshop job.
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Mark
7 months, 1 week ago
I made a thread about this ages ago when VR goggles first started being a thing. I posed the question that if you could sit on you could with VR goggles and a suit on and get a full immersive riding experience would you still actually go outside to ride?
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Kyle Dixon
7 months, 1 week ago
My answer to the VR or Realreal would be an unequivocal "Weeeee!!!" as I roll down the driveway ;)
Andy Eunson
7 months, 1 week ago
There was a movie about just that. Surrogates. And Wall-e of course is similar.
Mammal
7 months, 1 week ago
Privateer (probably 141) was so obvious. Not may brands are moving toward humped top tubes, and the fact that people can point this out as obvious amongst a pretty bloated array of industry offerings, means it is certainly an attention-drawing feature.
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fartymarty
7 months, 1 week ago
It was the first bike that popped to mind when I read the article. The old 141 and 161 looked great. Now they don't....
There are only a few who can get away wiht it - Sklar, Merlin and Retrotec spring to mind.
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Matt Cusanelli
7 months, 1 week ago
Maybe I shouldn't, maybe it's too contentious given the polarity of NSMB and NSMBe, but just maybe we can all get along? What about a Custom Electric Schwinn? Suave Schwinn style and ride feel, cruiser bumps (humps?) inclusive, and ability to roll at 40+km/h. Perhaps the gas Whizzer was just a first iteration and these bikes are optimized with electric motors after all.
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Tehllama42
7 months, 1 week ago
For all the mentions of Brandon Semenuk - I can't be the only one to realize that he gave Lia Block his seat for the ARA finale (after locking up the championship)... I mean seriously how cool is that.
I have an awful lot of deeply held aesthetic preferences I can't explain but are mostly driven by performance/simplicity/cost in a way that 'good simple rugged design has a look all its own', and that tends to work well, it's just really hard to be particularly competitive in this industry if that's what you're doing because triangles are triangles and there are only so many variations on that theme that can survive in an industry that keeps so many unique players around (though most of the value in the space gets consumed by the same five or so brands).
Like most things we interact with that are considered 'hard', it really is the subtle nuance buried within a lot of repetitions pursuing excellence in the details... which is basically impossible for anybody with 'marketing' in their job title to have a prayer of conveying to a broader audience. It's just the nature of the beast.
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T_Chilly
7 months, 1 week ago
Thanks for another thought provoking read. Been reading your work since the grimy handshake days and appreciate it more now than ever. You're a champion of the genuine.
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tmoore
7 months, 1 week ago
I really enjoyed the Kora, especially the ending. I'm happy the Tibetan cat proved to be right and that they followed the raven out rather than just long lining a couple of mini-exes in to gap that creek
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Kos
7 months, 1 week ago
Was it planned, or a co-inky-dink, that a column discussing humps came out on Hump Day?!
Inquiring minds want to know!
Fun read — though at the moment it’s hard to fault darn near anything a bike-related co does to keep/increase business.
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cxfahrer
7 months, 1 week ago
Had a humped bike (Spectral) once, friends always asked whether I hit a wall with it. I think Fabien Barel brought this hump over from Mondraker?
Regarding flashy vs. blending in, I really like both. There is a 70s Mustang Grande on sale on BAT, yellow with a light brown vinyl top - sooo cool!
The 60s 70s were so colorful and vibrant, it faded all into brown and black in the 80s, and now black or grey are the norm, and plastic obscenities covering up motors and batteries like on a cheap China scooter.
Thanks for the article!
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Velocipedestrian
7 months, 1 week ago
Not a wall, but you get the idea.
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ReformedRoadie
7 months, 1 week ago
Someone at Trek must have had that song stuck in their head when they designed the graphics for the latest Madone. (apologies to those triggered by a road bike reference)
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
Yeahbut... someone else at Trek has been keeping it low key:
https://nsmb.com/articles/trek-top-fuel-for-2025/
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Andy Eunson
7 months, 1 week ago
Low key subtle looks are always in fashion. Easier to sell in 5 years.
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JT
7 months, 1 week ago
1. Newboys and their elder inspirations will never go out of style unless they get made from Aluminium, in which case the graceful curves get lost in a sea of large welds. Blergh.
2. Picked up a Handsome Cycles Shop Bike frameset at the start of spring. With a 3 speed it has become my 40% commuter rig. I loved the aesthetic when they first came out but there wasn't room in the haus for another mouth to feed at the time. Curved top into curved seat stays, segmented fork. Thinking of slapping some knobbies on it for the HFF. I hear clunking is a thing now. May give it a try.
3. I think there is a preference in the 'road race' market for large n garish (or bold if you want a posi spin on it) graphics while someone spending time in the woods would rather see their bike blend into the picture in front of em.
4. From a performance perspective, if a bike is designed with a frame bag in mind, a hump makes sense. More cubics to stash gear.
5. I don't mind some abrupt curve at the headtube, but when I first read a comment about a frame looking like a dog poopin' I haven't been able to shake that image out whenever I see an abrupt top tube bend at the head tube.
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earle.b
7 months, 1 week ago
That Merlin image should be of a Retrotec.
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Mike Ferrentino
7 months, 1 week ago
I thought about that for a long while, because I absolutely love Curtis' bikes. But they are so curvy and completely built around this blend of funcitonal high-style aesthetic beauty that picturing one of them would have completely undermined whatever it was I was trying to say. The Newsboy seemed like a semi-subtle middle ground. And was still far prettier than any of the old Santa Cruz Jackal humpback images I could find...
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taprider
7 months, 1 week ago
thank you again for another inspiring story
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Lynx .
7 months, 1 week ago
Mike, is it that you can't recall or you seem to recall, but then think, is this just Dejavu, did I really? I swear, the amount of times I get/have that feeling these days, that I swear I've said or done just what I did is unsettling, did I dream I did that and now just did in reality, what is reality, are we in the Matrix?? As someone who used to have dreams of stuff that happened in reality a few weeks or months later when I was a kid, I just never know now.
As to the bike, yeah I'm with you, loud, obnoxious, super sized graphics or fugly bent tubes, bent for the sake of bending to make it different from last years really bugs me. ON the bike you pictured though, I think the bent top tube lends itself to lovely curbed of the seatstays, it's the bend in the downtube that gets me, that strikes me as not so aesthetically pleasing (maybe it's the several different manipulations on one tube), but overall, that's a beautiful bike. I like bright colours good enough for frames, but in general, my bikes are either black or raw and then I add subtle colour with hubs, headsets, seatpost clamps, grips, cables etc.,
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[email protected]
7 months, 1 week ago
Great article as always. I didn’t know you wrote a book, though!
Market to the client’s dreams, not reality, I suppose.
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Curveball
7 months, 1 week ago
Book??
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rolly
7 months, 1 week ago
Was gifted a Niner WFO frame a couple of years ago (with a hump). Would never have purchased it from the website photos, but IRL it looks quite good, and good glory it's fun to ride!
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BC_Nuggets
7 months, 1 week ago
Fender Strat vs Tele...it's all good.
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Curveball
7 months, 1 week ago
Jazz bass is where it's at.
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Mike Moore
7 months, 1 week ago
Yep. Thanks again Mike.
The Newsboy type frame is iconic, and I'd leg wrestle my grandma for the one pictured. That being said, also not a fan of humps or non straight top tubes (what's the opposite of hump?).
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Alex Chapman
7 months, 1 week ago
Thank you
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hankthespacecowboy
7 months, 1 week ago
I just got on the Knolly bandwagon largely because they straightened out the humps.
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mikesee
7 months, 1 week ago
Speaking of cruisers and curves, have you found yourself inside Don McClung’s shop since relocating? He still around?!
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