REVIEW
SwitchGrade - Tilting Saddles
Aenomaly Revisted
Aenomaly Constructs is a bold attempt at addressing a series of questions that many mountain bikers have asked themselves. Do other riders share my need? Can I find a company to make it for me? If I invested the time, and the money, will anybody buy it?
The SwitchGrade, the company's three position, on-the-fly adjustable, saddle tilt adjuster is not inexpensive. However, it is designed, machined, and assembled in B.C., and the quality is tops. For riders who angle their saddle noses down aggressively, it presents the option for better power production and ergonomics on flat terrain and a better position on downhills.
If you missed my first impression & teardown piece on the SwitchGrade, you may want to give it a look to learn how Aenomaly's saddle tilt adjust works, but if the what & why are more important, then please read on.
On The Fly
My first dropper post had a manual trigger under the saddle instead of a remote, and eventually I became decently proficient at riding one-handed across technical terrain as I raised or lowered it. Keep in mind it only had to go up or down some 75mm or so; it's not like I was guiding a 200mm dropper into position on the fly.
It's a skill I rediscovered quickly with the SwitchGrade saddle tilt adjuster, and generally I could smoothly transition between the three saddle positions without missing a beat. My friends almost had the chance to witness some one-handed yard sales but I saved it every time, and who is to say what 'almost' is in mountain biking?
Despite how tucked away the lever is, I was impressed with how quick and easy, yet solid it was to adjust the angle. After months of grimy winter riding, it still functions as new and no play has developed in the system.
Short & Tall
As I suspected, the -10° Climb setting on the angle-adjusting post head was truly wasted on me. It didn't matter that I could easily get into and out of it, there are simply too few situations steep enough for me to truly take advantage of it versus just sliding forward on my saddle slightly. This comes down to bike setup, and the bar and saddle relationship in particular.
I run my saddle and bars very nearly level, with the saddle at full climbing height, so I don't get any hot spots or discomfort from running my saddle flat, which is where I find I create the most power. It doesn't matter if a bike has an old-school slack or beyond steep seat tube angle, this works for me.
I have a few friends, generally taller than I, though not universally, who are riding around with their saddle noses angled down all the time. They have a more significant drop from their full-mast saddle height and their bars. I believe the SwitchGrade would be a revelation for them on flat terrain and especially when descending but I couldn't put together a clamp swap with anyone riding a BikeYoke post.
I've talked to a few riders for whom the SwitchGrade was a massive step toward more comfortable climbing, so while it's not for me, I have no doubt about its benefit for others.
Shred Mode
Looking beyond the -10° climb setting, I'm conflicted by the +12° descending mode. I use it regularly for steep trails and love the extra effective drop, the leg-steering position, and how it changes the way I interface with my saddle. I can envision Aenomaly Constructs putting out 2-position descend-only and 2-position climb-only versions of the SwitchGrade.
My conflict comes from the added cost and complexity of the system. I like my bikes to be as simple as possible without sacrificing fun - hence why I run a dropper post instead of a straight post and quick-release setup. I only have the SwitchGrade installed on one bike and it's not that I'm not getting along fine riding other rigs, but I would have loved to have the descending mode on the We Are One Arrival, so I can't claim that I don't miss it.
On Quality
The Aenomaly SwitchGrade is a significant investment at 284 CAD, no argument. At this price there are riders with their saddles doing duck-dives who will not be able to justify a better riding position on flat and downhill terrain. But, it's also impossible for me to envision a product built with cheaper materials, less focus on tolerances, and poor assembly that will hold up well enough to make the experience worthwhile.
Maybe there are areas for Aenomaly to simplify the design and assembly, and maybe if they sell enough units, quantity discounts will be possible, but in the meantime for a product that is designed, machined, and assembled in the most expensive region of British Columbia I don't think one can argue the price isn't fair.
Given the potential benefits for the large number of riders I see with their saddles tilted down, I wonder if lower-priced competitors will enter the market. Time will tell if those products will act as a gateway to SwitchGrade or simply turn people off the idea through a combination of noise and slop.
The SwitchGrade will have buyers who experience no net benefit. There will also be riders for whom it's experience-changing. And some will be in between, noticing an improvement but perhaps not enough to justify the investment.
The difficulty is determining what category you belong to. If you have room in your bicycle budget to cover the almost three-hundred Canuck-bucks, you appreciate really nicely made things, and the nose of your saddle comes with a grade warning for heavy trucks, then you'll be delighted with your new gadget.
For the rest, I'd find an opportunity to test one out before dropping three bills.
For more information on SwitchGrade check out Aenomaly Constructs.
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AenomalyConstructs
1 year, 6 months ago
Sorry, parachuting in here a bit late, have been travelling all week.
Andrew, helluva review and commentary as always, thank you!
Happy to field any questions here or through our website. If you'd like to try a SwitchGrade up close, check them out at Lynn Valley Bikes or Pedalsport in Chilliwack.
Cheers, Noel
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mrb-mtb
1 year, 6 months ago
It looks like lower priced competitors will enter the market..
https://ifdesign.com/en/taipeicycle-d-and-i-awards-2023-winner-saddle-angle-adjuster
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Velocipedestrian
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah, Pinkypink covered it briefly, at least they mentioned Aenomaly in the piece.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah, it’s great that Pinkbike mentioned Aenomaly. It looks like a standard, full-on, R&D job. Rip-off & Duplicate that is… but it will be interesting to see what’s what if/when it’s available.
I’d have also loved if they’d explained what a “semi-closed” design is… sounds to me like the term belongs with other made up bicycle words like “half-clevis” and such.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
The dictionary of made up bicycle words would make an excellent coffee table book.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
With accompanying photos and an explanation of why they’re useful or bullshit?
Does sound fun, until you remember it would have to have a section on “loam” vs. actual loam. Maybe that could be the forward.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
Loam: The frothiest, tackiest, dirtiest dirt that ever did dirt. But not dirt, because dirt is dirt.
Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
How do you know the Reso is lower priced? I haven’t seen pricing anywhere.
What is a semi-closed design?
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mrb-mtb
1 year, 6 months ago
No inside info here I'm afraid. I just guessed it will be cheaper as it's not first to market and it's made in Asia. I can reveal however that the design is somewhere between a closed design and a fully open one.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
Would you say its a slight modification of a partial-open design, changed for patent reasons?
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
To me, a semi-open or semi-closed design brings to mind a picture of something that lets a ton of crap in and then eats itself as same said detritus can’t escape.
But no, it’s probably a full-on rip-off. I’d be keen to see it apart to compare.
I do think that use case wise these products should be tested by folks who ride nose then already as they have the chance in those cases to be revolutionary rather than interesting.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
100% how I read it. Apologies should have acknowledged it before my brain cycled over.
Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
Dang it, I deleted my comment because I didn't think it added anything to the conversation!
Here it is again:
'Oh, I know, I was just commenting on the absurdity of marketing speak'
Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
“I can reveal however that the design is somewhere between a closed design and a fully open one.”
Hahaha.
I imagine that most the cost savings from overseas production - particularly if they’ve scaled manufacturing and assembly (are making a ton of them) - will go into margins but it’s just guessing at this point.
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Timer
1 year, 6 months ago
I'm not sure if "making a ton of them" is a good idea for such an incredibly niche product.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
To be fair, droppers were a niche product until reverbs started appearing on complete bikes.
Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
I’ll go on record as saying this definitely isn’t the second coming of the dropper post. It’s a nice niche product that will truly be an experience enhancement for the bisection of folks who can both afford it and want their saddle nose angled down for climbs.
Even at the same quality as the SwitchGrade for 25% less a company is only going to sell so many units.
If you are looking for the next dropper post I maintain it’s tire inserts.
Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
That's fair. I have a hard time seeing anything, including inserts, causing the same quantum shift in mountain bikes that dropper posts did, but even so I really want to find that thing.
Timer
1 year, 6 months ago
Tyre inserts, really? I don't think they are anywhere close to the dropper post in terms of transformative experience for mountain biking.
Maybe in the S2S area, but certainly not anywhere else.
Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
I don’t think anything has the revolutionary every-bike potential of disc brakes or dropper posts, but if there’s a product that’s currently on the market that’s going to be more universally adopted than it is now I think it’s tire inserts.
Dave Smith
1 year, 6 months ago
I've been rolling for 5 months with a switch grade.It took a little experimenting with the seat angle app to find the sweet spot but once I got it dialled in things started working for me. I honestly never use the shred mode but unconsciously give the lever a tickle and put it into climb mode every time I start climbing something steeper than the Mt Seymour road.
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Cam R
1 year, 6 months ago
serious q, not trying to be an eedjet. I can see the help of the climb mode angle up ridiculous steep trails and fire roads. Once you've dropped the seat for descending why does the changed angle of the seat help at all, you aren't sitting on it and will it really make any difference to how your thighs interact with the seat/bike handling?
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
Just judging from time on a dirt jumper, having an upward facing saddle is a bit more comfortable than a flat or downward facing one.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
It’s neat and easy to replicate / experience yourself with nothing more than a multi-tool. Lower your saddle, tilt it up, and try it next time you’re on a steep sustained DH track.
It’s not such an advantage that I’d buy a SwitchGrade just for the feature (I’m quite content with my flat saddle) but I also now understand why so many DH racers/riders point the nose up on their saddles. The interface feels much more normal when descending steep lines.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
The nose down position does steepen the seat tube angle a bit too, so for some bikes that might be great. For a steep sta hardtail, I can’t see this version being the best. Now, something with a slight offset…
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
In general I don’t see folks putting this on a hardtail. Both for the STA reason you note and also because it’s an expensive (justified though I think the price is) add-on that runs contrary to simplifying one’s bike.
I also don’t see folks with the noses tilted down aggressively on hardtails the way I do on FS bikes. Which is, interesting? Sample size? Really tall folks ride FS?
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
So I'll put my nose down on my hard tail if I'm going to be riding a really long, really steep climb or doing steep climbs a lot in the near future. It puts my hips in a better position for sustained efforts. However, most of what I've been riding has been more variable and flatter so the nose has stayed flat.
That's interesting about the bar/saddle height - with riser bars the heights are about equal unsagged, but that changes as soon as I get on the bike. Maybe for tall seat posts going up hill a nose down saddle keeps that bar/saddle height on the same plane?
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
Interesting, so in that hardtail case maybe a cam that dropped the nose and moved it rearward to not overly steepen the STA would be ideal?
I think in most/all cases the pressure relief from dropping the nose can also be achieved by raising the bar. That may come with negative changes to handling for some bikes/riders and not everyone likes high-high-high ride bar aesthetics so SwitchGrade absolutely has a place.
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Flatted-again
1 year, 6 months ago
I honestly think a steep STA paired with an offset switchgrade thing that moves the saddle to a position where it's more suitable for flat terrain, with a single nose down position that then brings the saddle back to the original steep STA would work great. At least, for my usage.
Maybe some numbers would help illustrate what I'm envisioning:
Say a 78° STA is the starting point. That's a bit too steep for me to ride on flat terrain, even with riser bars (puts too much pressure on my hands) but is perfect with a nose down for steep trails. A 10-20mm rearward offset moves it to maybe a 76.5° STA (I'm probably off by a degree or so) which seems pretty great for the flat stuff. The switchgrade forward position then changes the STA by about a degree so we're back to around 77-78.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if part of why if may be better suited for a Fs is that when climbing there’s a hair more weight over the rear suspension, which slackens things up even more.
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rolly
1 year, 6 months ago
Try running shorter cranks for your hips.
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lev3000
1 year, 6 months ago
I’ve bought one, but not used it properly yet. I’ve got a shorter inseem, and use a SQLab wide-ish saddle. What I’m after is a comfier cruising position when my post is dropped about 30-40mm. An upward angled saddle when it’s slammed (like my old DH bike) so I can manoeuvre around the wide saddle, and I’m interested in the dropped nose for climbing and the claimed advantages with that. Local tarmac hill felt ok. Like Andrew I had a KS lever dropper and got on with it well.
I’ll report back after I’ve been out for a couple of rides
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Goon
1 year, 6 months ago
I've got one and I like it as a taller person being able to adjust on the fly by dropping the nose makes it much more comfortable for climbing. I've tried raising the nose for down hill ,that pert isn't for me but overall I like it
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
I’ve talked to a few folks who have them. Most of whom already dropped the nose considerably on their bikes for climbing.
It sounds like a two position would be ideal for most of us as folks either go from down to flat, or flat to up, but not the whole range.
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Cr4w
1 year, 6 months ago
Is that the desired outcome? Rather than find a compromise saddle level that kind of works for everything you can have nose down for climbing and flattish for riding and tech? On my super steep ESTA bike the ideal angle for climbing and tech feels pretty weird on flat ground.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
Exactly. Instead of compromising you’re changing the saddle position to have that ideal - for you - position for climbing but riding to the trails or trying to generate power on flatter trails there’s a more optimum position that doesn’t feel “pretty weird”.
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skywalkdontrun
1 year, 6 months ago
I distinctly remember Specialized doing something like this with their "Wu" dropper post. Granted, it wasn't on-the-fly adjustable beyond tilting upwards at the bottom of the dropper travel, but it accomplished the same thing, and the action of the saddle angle change was integrated into the action of the dropper, not two separate mechanisms. it was also universally panned. Whether that was down to bad idea or bad execution is up for debate, so there's that.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
SwitchGrade works very differently from Wu. I covered it in my first impression piece so didn’t rehash here.
The short version: WU tilted automatically with the travel settings and tied you into Specialized’s 150mm travel, non-infinite, non-reliable, Command Post platform. It was crap.
I think one of the nicest features of SwitchGrade is it’s added on to your choice of post/travel. Plus it’s ideal to be able to choose nose level or down with the seat fully extended depending on if you’re making power on a flat section or trying to more comfortable power up steep hills.
One thing they have in common is they certainly aren’t for everyone. But where Wu cost money to ditch it, it costs nothing not to buy SwitchGrade.
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(Somewhere, one of my really tall friends with a lot of saddle to bar drop is whinging about it being yet another tax on tall people - hahaha. We see you, while we have your attention there’s a thing on the top shelf we need down).
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Justin White
1 year, 6 months ago
Climb mode can also be useful to take some load off your upper body, rather than just thinking about the saddle to crotch interface. Though you can shift forward on long steep climbs, having the tilt makes the slide either automatic or free depending on your POV. You might not always feel it, but getting and keeping yourself slid forward does take energy, more so if the saddle is tilted back because of terrain. Anyone who has experimented with a decent climbing tilt long-term probably knows the way it adds weight to your hands and arms when you're not climbing. Reverse that and automatically add weight to the hands via seat angle only when climbing? Well, that's super nice, as long as it doesn't also make the saddle less comfortable, which it probably won't.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
That’s an interesting observation re. reducing load on the hands/upper body which I find super-steep STAs can create if I don’t raise my bar. It makes sense but my saddle to bar drop on the Rifty is so small I didn’t experience it personally.
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Jerry Willows
1 year, 6 months ago
the new AXS post could incorporate this idea with just a push of a button.... for the low price of 2k. Will match perfectly with the 4k drivetrain.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
It requires more force than just opening a valve like the AXS dropper does. But I never say never.
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Jerry Willows
1 year, 6 months ago
moar battery!
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XXX_er
1 year, 6 months ago
I set the saddle slightly nose high, I don't see much of a point for this product, in 5 yrs people will be saying huh?
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
Like Rev Grips, bars with more sweep, Fasst Flexx bars and etc, folks that don’t need them don’t need them.
I think for those of us who don’t point our saddle noses down there’s not much appeal to SwitchGrade but in the shop and on the trail I see a lot of saddle noses pointed downward.
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Andy Eunson
1 year, 6 months ago
What I see when riders mount their seat nose down a lot is a bike with a steep seat tube angle, a tall rider and too little stack. Steep seat tube angles encourage a more upright stance while on the seat and if you have too much drop from seat to bar the rider will be leaning on the bar with enough weight that they feel,like they are sliding off the back of the saddle especially when climbing if they are putting down some power. A better answer I think is raising the bar height. Tilting the seat will keep your butt from sliding back but you’re still weighting the bars too much.
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
So, I don’t need the SwitchGrade because my saddle to bar drop is minimal and, as such, my thinking was the same (raising grips through increased stack or bar rise is the way to go).
But for particularly tall folks or bikes that handle better with more weight over the front wheel the SwitchGrade may be the superior option, or at least the superior compromise.
Certainly any rider I see with their nose pointed down, I think, would be well served either by raising their bar or ordering from Aenomaly.
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AndrewR
1 year, 6 months ago
Or you could assume that they live in an area where they spend a significant amount of time climbing in the 10-15º + zone.
For example; Howler - 55 minutes for a decently fit rider, probably 50% of that it in a 12-17º range, the section from the ATV gate to the Howler is more in the 17-30º zone.
My rule of thumb for saddle angle (nose down) is 1º for every 3-5º of average climbing gradient (a bit of sit bone support and personal preference) and yes I have a properly fitted SQ-Lab saddle so I can sit properly, push against the saddle for power and slide forward on a flat comfortable nose for micro adjustment of centre of mass over base of support.
Within that range is the allowance range for height, saddle/ bar delta, leg length and actual pedalling ability (there are a lot of very good descenders who are rubbish pedallers).
And with a good saddle (rounded rear and non hooky nose) on a dropper the nose down angle becomes irrelevant during the descent. Sure the nose up angle does give a nicer leg touch point for getting seriously near out of shape on a descent but one has to compare the energy benefit of a good climbing set up for the 55 minute effort versus the slightly improved saddle angle for the 12-20 minutes of descending.
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Velocipedestrian
1 year, 6 months ago
Sounds like you're a candidate for a two position version. How is your saddle angle for flatter / rolling terrain?
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
“Certainly any rider I see with their nose pointed down, I think, would be well served either by raising their bar or ordering from Aenomaly.”
@AndrewR it sounds to me like, unless you pedal that sustained grade all the time, you’d be a great candidate to try the SwitchGrade.
It may be that you don’t spend enough time creating power in flatter terrain to make it worth the cost of entry/added complexity for whatever gains you’d notice, but I think you’d notice less pressure on your arms and more power from your legs in those flatter situations.
Cheers,
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Andrew Major
1 year, 6 months ago
Follow up question, Andrew,
What is the approximate STA on your frame? I only ask because my new mule has a much steeper STA than I normally ride and I've found myself fitting an SQ-Lab saddle (longer rails so I can run the saddle back further, but also for the power factor.
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