Ranting about mistreatment of women in MTB
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Sit Down, Be Humble

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The following is going to be me talking angrily about a lot of shitty things. It’s not going to primarily be about mountain bikes (which, thankfully, are not shitty things), but I promise I’ll bring it back around.

I can’t speak for all women. I can only speak for myself, but I’m going to guess there are a lot of women who are just really tired of existing in a world that treats them as something... less. The disrespect, negligence, side eye, rude, and demeaning behavior that women are subjected to isn’t always as obvious as the crap that one You-Know-Who slopestyle guy posted last week. That was stupid - full stop. I don’t want to give any more attention to him. His sponsors are taking appropriate action.

Instead, I want to call attention to EVERYTHING else that happens. All day, every day, in front of your eyes and ears, on bikes and off. You may not consider it misogynistic because it’s always been this way (and face it, most of you reading this are men, so you probably don't see it, not the way I do), but just because something has been a certain way for a very long time doesn’t mean it’s right.

I know the fellas of NSMB are standing aside and wondering how to approach topics like this, and to their credit, they’re trying. They listen. They ask questions, and when they get caught accidentally mansplaining they shut the fuck up and try to correct. There are lots of guys out there “trying,” but what does trying look like? It depends on who you ask. For me, “trying” is co-existing with me as any normal friend or stranger and doing so without assumption. It's asking how certain things make me feel or affect me instead of assuming you know my inner workings. It’s listening. It’s showing up for other women without being asked. It’s calling out other dudes on their everyday bullshit misogynistic behavior because it feels normal for you to do so. It’s not making women feel uncomfortable when it’s just you and them in a room/on a trail/on a sidewalk. It’s wanting to ride with women because we’re all here to have fun instead of assuming we’re not strong or fast enough to keep up with you. It’s understanding that women are different than men and no one should tell us how to deal with our shit. Our shit is ours to figure out. It’s supporting and uplifting women. It’s taking a bit of time for introspection and realizing that there’s a chance you might have been shitty to women at some point, accepting it, and trying to be a better version of yourself going forward.

“Trying” is not taking up all the space in a room. I’ll never forget a conversation I had with a college friend some 20-odd years ago who told me about an evening she had at a bar on a date. She was describing the man she’d just met and the alarming amount of physical space he occupied—not because he was a big dude, but because he loomed over her. He sprawled out on the bar stool and spread out his limbs. She felt like she had nowhere to go. Body language speaks volumes, and I’m pretty sure half of you have no idea just how much physical space you take up in a room. In the words of Kendrick and Micayla, sit down, and be humble. Think about it. Men have been using their physical size to intimidate women and shape the world - whether they realize it or not - since the dawn of time. The world is man-sized. Cars are man-sized. Bar stools, kitchen cabinets, and chairs-man sized. Bikes? You better freaking believe it. (If you had a dollar for every time I complained about that).

Sigh. Meanwhile, half the freaking population of this planet are women - women who’ve been told by society that we shouldn’t take up space. That we should be skinny. That we should wear make-up. That we should be quiet. That if you shrink it and pink it, we’ll like it. That we aren’t important enough for appropriately sized bikes and gear. That if we show outward confidence, then we are for sure slutty. That somehow being slutty is worth shaming. (News flash, that’s none of your fucking business.) You know that stupid meme circulating this summer about being “very demure”? It made me want to rip a hole in the space-time continuum and crawl into that hole and die. I hate that word because, for so long, women have been told to be demure. Pardon me while I play metal on high to work out some of my rage. Did you know that women weren’t legally able to open their own bank accounts in the US until the 1960s? And did you know it was LEGAL to discriminate against them for doing so until 1974? Nuts. I want to sit here and expound on how insane it is that women weren’t *allowed* legal access to birth control until 1965. Perhaps you’ve seen Dirty Dancing and the coat hanger scene. That’s pretty scary stuff. What’s even scarier is that it doesn’t feel like that kind of thing is crazy anymore. Women and their bodily autonomy are still being decided by men.

One of my closest friends is a total badass. She’s an ER doctor, an absurdly talented rock climber, and she’s a hell of a mountain biker who can ride circles around many guys out there. She’s told me about the layers of sexism that exist in climbing. For her, it got so bad that she walked away from the sport for a while. I follow a ton of female climbers on the ol’ socials and I’m baffled by the comments that men leave. “Should you be doing that while you’re pregnant?” “Are you certified to lead a group up that route?” This is being said to professional rock climbers. My same badass doctor friend regales me almost weekly with tales of the misogyny she experiences in the ER. On a very regular basis as she’s treating patients they’ll ask when the doctor will be in to see them. “I am the doctor,” she replies. They stare at her like she’s an alien, not a doctor. She’s an ex-Division-1 volleyball player, who has two younger brothers and a dad who are all NFL-sized jocks with attitude. She has had to physically and emotionally overcome their dudetude for over 40 years and now has to semi-politely explain that yes, in fact, she is the doctor, and she fucking earned that title.

Let’s bring this back to bikes. As a freelancer I filmed with and wrote about many elite athletes including World Cup and Rampage riders. On two occasions I was assaulted by riders I’d worked with—one while on a shoot, and one at a film premiere. I never went public about either occurrence because when you want to work in an industry where boys rule, being the girl that rats out ultra-successful riders gets you nothing besides being labeled as a narc. I feared that it would hinder me getting more work, so I stayed silent. It just raged quietly inside me while I watched them have successful careers and become the heroes of many. The worst part? I know so many other women who have had experiences like this with top-level riders. I hate that the fear of coming forward still exists. The system is so broken.

I’ve been fortunate to work for a few great bike companies. However, at one I endured so much sexist BS, that in hindsight I can’t believe no one ever got fired. Accountability wasn’t a priority. I’ll spare you the full laundry list, but a particular standout moment was when I was called a “sex kitten” at a company barbeque in front of a lot of other staff (and leadership) by someone who’d worked there for decades. Several of my female coworkers experienced similar treatment and eventually moved on to greener pastures—including one who now can fire team athletes who don’t live up to moral standards. Karma can be a real thorn in your side. Ask Mr. Testa.

When I sit back and think about all of the negative commentary that women have endured, the skepticism of whether or not we’re good enough, and the omnipresent misogynistic behavior that’s happening right in front of your face, I can’t help but come back to the commentary that was stirred up by women getting into Rampage. “Women aren’t tough enough.” “They’re going to be so boring to watch. They can’t do what the men do.” “If everyone is created equal, put them in the same competition. There’s no way they’d even qualify.” I’m sorry, what’s that? I couldn’t hear you over the whizzz of Chelsea Kimball’s tires as she SENT that insane drop, or against the wind in my ears while Robin Goomes threw multiple backflips on her run. Women aren’t ready? Get the fuck out of here.

Women came, saw, and kicked ass, and they did it because they have been READY to do this for a long, long time. Women have never been weak or scared. We’ve just had to claw our way up to be seen and - annoyingly, again and again and again - convince the people in power (usually men) to make some freaking space for us. Look, we don’t want what’s yours. We want to kick ass at what’s ours. Women’s Rampage was exciting. It was eye-opening. It’s the next chapter in this movement that has been pushed uphill by a strong group of pioneers who’ve been steadfast in their goals of making mountain biking a space where women aren’t second-tier. We're better than that. We deserve more than that. We want nice gear too. We want to ride with everyone, and some of us want to ride hard and fast and scare the living daylights out of ourselves. We’re a lot like you. We just want to ride our fucking bikes without judgment. And we are sick, so sick, of being judged.

Inaugural Women's Red Bull Rampage - competitors

Faces of a hard fought battle. Inaugural Red Bull Rampage competitors (as well as two key advocates, Katie and Michelle). Left to right: Katie Holden, Robin Goomes, Georgia Astle, Casey Brown, Vero Sandler, Vinny Armstrong, Casey Kimball, Vaea Verbeeck, and Michelle Parker pose at the finish corral at Red Bull Rampage in Virgin, Utah October 7th, 2024. Photo: Emily Tidwell / Red Bull Content Pool

If I sound angry, that’s because I am. I’m sitting here on the eve of a complete dumpster fire of an election in the United States where one of the candidates is literally a convicted felon, has sexually assaulted women, openly fires off racist commentary like it’s just a casual “hello,” and tells bold-faced lies all day long. I have zero tolerance for any human who behaves this way and the fact that about half the country accepts his behavior just shows you how prevalent misogyny is today. But half the country apparently is okay with that. And that makes me feel heartbroken and sick to my stomach. And by the time you read this, that felon will either have been elected president, again, or there will be a woman of color elected. I do not need to tell you how I am voting. I do not need to hear your justifications for how you voted, any more than I need to hear you telling me that I ride pretty good for a girl.

But NSMB isn’t a political site, and you probably didn’t come here to read about politics. So, instead, I’m going to bring it back to bikes (and women!) again. We have reached the tipping point in our sport. Women are here and we are going to keep showing up. We are going to cheer each other on and celebrate how far we have come, with the wind and the deck stacked against us. And we will probably cheer you on too, because we like to support everyone. We’re going to keep digging, riding harder, and pushing the envelope. You’re going to see more and more projects with women as the main characters because we deserve to be here. We should not have needed to earn it, but we did anyway. We exist in the same space as you, so start acting like it.

<rant over>

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andy-eunson
+14 Seven86 Offrhodes42 Mike Ferrentino Luix Pete Roggeman Cam McRae Kerry Williams Deniz Merdano Todd Hellinga Velocipedestrian ohio taprider IslandLife Skooks Carlos Matutes luckylegs

Well said Lacy. As a small man I have felt crowded by big men at times. And some bikes don’t come in my size. But I only have an inkling of what women have to put up with. I respect people like you who will stand up for what’s right. I respect people that try hard at whatever they do. I’m lucky to know a lot of woman who are good at what they do. And they have fought male dominated society to get where they are. These are people I admire. Doctors, lawyers, ski coaches, physiotherapists (which I’m getting to familiar with at my state of decrepitude) trainers etc. Be heard. I hear you.

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retrokona
+13 Pete Roggeman UMichael Cam McRae LWK Kerry Williams Todd Hellinga Velocipedestrian Andy Eunson ohio Luix Mike Riemer IslandLife Carlos Matutes

You have joined Ferrentino in the “does she live in my head? Can she read my thoughts?” club of NSMB writers since you joined up. I’m so sorry that this happened. Not just the daily misogyny but the assaults you felt you couldn’t talk about. This probably took an enormous amount of strength to publish.

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zigak
+10 Mike Ferrentino Luix Tehllama42 Pete Roggeman Andy Eunson Alex_L DanL ohio IslandLife Skooks

As you are reaching mainly adult men on this site, I would like to add the nr.1 thing that we (I'm also an adult man) can do to bring more women to mtb: make an effort to bring your daughters to mtb, make it dad/daughter thing you do. I have two sons and it's a constant struggle to bring them alongside riding bikes in the woods. There are so many other distractions and I bet there are even more hurdles (societal) to overcome for daughters. 

I follow Andrew Major and he would be a poster child on how to bring your daughter into mtb.

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tehllama42
+8 Pete Roggeman Mike Ferrentino Andy Eunson DanL Mark Harris ohio Luix IslandLife

To me, this comes down to how to best foster a culture that does better with the 'unstoppable pioneers' transitioning to the group as a whole having a bona fide place at the table building up until that 30-40% threshold is hit, because that first wave is going to be the unstoppable unflappable type, but it's the success of the second wave that really determines success and enables the group as a whole to benefit fully from affective diversity.  
Mechanisms like peer mentorship, and increasing media reach of the very human stories for those pioneers really matters, so that's an area I need to focus on, because my daughters are going to be entering a world where community and balance matter disproportionately, and MTB is one of the better ways to do it... there's just a finite limit to what I can do as 'dumb old dad', but hard agree that Andrew's example is a great template to work from.

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KarinG
+10 araz Konrad mnihiser Pete Roggeman Mark Harris ohio Luix WolfTwenty1 IslandLife Skooks Cam McRae luckylegs

Thank you for writing this Lacy. I'm grateful for the conversations that led up to this, the openness that is being shown to more openly (and regularly!) discussing these issues and making intentional space for women in mountain biking media. It is a burden on you to have to write about, relive and share the shit you have been through, I'm sorry it happened to you and I'm sorry you have to experience the emotional toll of reliving it and sharing it to educate others.. again.  Thank you for your voice though and for sharing, its a good thing on such a shit fucking day.

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Zero-cool
+9 Lacy Kemp Andy Eunson mnihiser Pete Roggeman Todd Hellinga Mark Harris ohio Luix IslandLife

Well said, I hope we can all work to try to make the world a better place where the misogyny doesn’t exist  personally I’m lucky that my wife rides and our 6 year old daughter is as keen as her brother to get out there and ride like mummy (never like daddy).  We don’t need more women role models, we have them and just need to give them the chances they rightly deserve. 

Let’s all try to be the change we need.

Although if you live in America from today onwards then that’s going to be a really really big challenge.

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morgan-heater
+9 Cam McRae Konrad Zero-cool Todd Hellinga Mark Harris ohio Luix Andy Eunson IslandLife Skooks luckylegs

Misogyny is real. And really harms all of us. Feeling pretty sad, scared, and angry right now. The only explanation that I can come up with for our current shitshow is culturally programmed misogyny. We've got to start stamping it out wherever we see it.

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araz
+9 dolface Velocipedestrian Andy Eunson Mark Harris ohio Luix Adrian Bostock IslandLife Cam McRae

Thanks for this Lacy. I don’t have anything to add except to say that I’m glad you’re part of the regular writing crew here. An apt read for a hard day.

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plepgeat
+5 Kerry Williams dolface ohio WolfTwenty1 IslandLife

Thanks. And I'm sorry.

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tehllama42
+5 Pete Roggeman Kerry Williams Luix IslandLife Skooks

Came for the political rant - smiled because that picture from Utah makes me so excited for the future.

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Emleross
+5 ohio Luix Raymond Epstein WolfTwenty1 IslandLife Cam McRae luckylegs

You’re either part of the problem or part of the solution. Zero tolerance.

Thanks for sharing Lacy

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Distrakted
+4 Lacy Kemp Andy Eunson Cam McRae fartymarty

A couple of weeks ago before the election as I was just dumbfounded by the shit show that is politics here in the US, I was just thinking about how we got here. One of the things that struck me was that society has for the most part ignored the intellect and wisdom of anyone who is not a straight white male. I can't help but wonder how things would be different on this planet if we tapped into everyone's brain power and insight. 

On a side hit...

The coming upon a loan woman on a trail always makes me uncomfortable. At 5'7" and 135 lbs, I am probably not the most intimidating hulk of a man but I can still sense the fear. If there is space, I will move off of the trail as far as I can but other than outing myself every time and saying something to the effect of "Nothing to fear here, not into vaginas" I am at a loss of what to do.

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andy-eunson
+2 IslandLife Cam McRae

What you do is act the same way you would if it were a man. Being friendly and respectful is what we should all strive for.

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lacykemp
+6 Andy Eunson Mike Riemer IslandLife araz Cam McRae Pete Roggeman

@Distrakted-Your comment gave me a little chuckle, so thanks for the levity in regards to a sensitive subject. I don't want anyone to avoid me, unless they're having a need for some solo time. That's totally cool. I'm a friendly rider. I talk to so many people on trail. I feel like my rides are happy hour at Cheers. It's where I go to be social. I don't want to make it feel like you can't or shouldn't talk to people. It doesn't need to be complicated. Just be kind. My post is full of anger because when you're tired, sometimes anger is the easiest emotion to emit. I don't want to live in a world where I have to be angry and fearful. I want to live in a world where I can ride, smile, say hello, ask to pet the dogs, and not stress about anyone on the hill, or in a park or on the sidewalk or in a parking lot. We've cultivated a world of insecurity and a bit of fear, and that makes me sad. I can't travel to any foreign country without my mom thinking I'm going to be kidnapped and trafficked. She REALLY thinks that's going to happen. I don't want to be like her. I want to be the opposite of that, and we get there by just being kind.

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Frorider
+3 Luix Skooks Cam McRae

Thanks for writing this Lacy.  Women in all aspects of life deserve support when they call out abusers.  I’m trying to control my anger at your abusers as I write this.  On a more positive note, my group of friends arranged a big ass watch party for the women’s Rampage, and it was an incredible and emotional experience for all of us regardless of gender, age, etc.

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rugbyred
+2 Pete Roggeman IslandLife

Well said and sorry for how we (men) treat people. 

I have three daughters and a son. We are trying our best to raise them all to respect each other and he (10) is well in the way to becoming someone I can be proud of as he he is able to respect and accept others and their differences.

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alexdi
+2 Cam McRae IslandLife

I'm sorry you've had these experiences. In my local mixed group, the women often lead and we've ended rides with cupcakes. It's just a good time. I can't speak for the competitive side of the sport.

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syncro
+2 Lacy Kemp Cam McRae

Yup, the general attitude that women are somehow less than men has been ingrained across many different facets of our society for a for a long time. This is especially true in the world of sports and physical endeavours. Like you say, I think a lot of people (men and women) aren't really aware of how pervasive it is or how it shapes our society. It's going to take good people standing up and speaking out against the transgressions that exist for the attitudes on the field to shift. Unfortunately I think that has become a riskier proposition in many circles and that it's going to get worse looking at the election results south of us and where are own elections are headed. 

There is a wave of pushback building against social justice issues, including those of women. I think the nuance that can exist also makes it difficult to handle social justice in an effective manner that is not going to create pushback. One thing I like to put forward is that when we argue for social justice and positive social change we need to frame it in a manner that is not attacking people or putting them on the defensive and instead try to lead them to see a different perspective. It's the idea of calling people in instead of calling people out. 

However we move forward, we absolutely have to keep the conversation on the table and advancing the fact women are not inferior to men and that the differences that exist between women and men not only need to be celebrated but taken advantage of in order to improve all our lives.

Like was said by Lilla Watson, "“If you have come here to help me you are wasting your time, but if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.”

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MeestahChow
0

Thanks for explaining.

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kavurider
+2 Andy Eunson Skooks

Well written and you are correct.

I will admit, I was pretty ignorant of just how bad things were in general for women until the MeToo movement - I really had no idea, as a straight, white, American-english speaking man, that so many women were harassed so often.  It really did open my eyes and show me a completely different side. 

It is amazing to me to see the backlash to this push for equality - there seems to be a counter-push to go back to "traditional" (ugh) roles and have women be second to men again.  I think its just that pendulum swing of extremism.  I go to a Tuesday ride that has both men and women.  They are treated as any other mountain biker - we all joke around, ride trails, crash, talk about gear.  I have also served with women in the armed forces and one of the people I look up to is a woman who made Lt Commander and had a really badass career going from enlisted to officer.

But then I see that video that "pro" posted and it just feels like it knocks everything 10 steps back.  I don't know the answer to any of this, but I will continue to do my best to just treat everyone as...well, people.

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dirtnapped
0 loamerhamlincoln Konrad

Can't we all just be kind and get along?

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hbelly13
0

Great article! Now is the time to stand up and be counted or fight the power. We will rise above.

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fartymarty
+1 Raymond Epstein

or Bikini Kill may have been a little more appropriate.

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Losifer
0

Outstanding piece of writing again, Lacey. I’m so glad you’re part of the NSMB team.

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luckylegs
-2 Kristian Øvrum Mike Ferrentino Carlos Matutes Lacy Kemp

Some interesting points based on your personal viewpoints and interpretation of everyday life. However, throwing out concepts such as toxic masculinity due to man-splaining and taking up space is weak. Your friend describes an incident 20 years ago, when a man did not sit like a woman, as a justification for condemning all males. PM Trudeau of Canada used 'taking up space' as a justification of far worse discriminations and outright hatred  than anything you have experienced. Women accepting and encouraging (trans) men to dominate their sports because of 'woke' BS kicks the stool out from under your position. Where was your outrage when men stole medals from women? Why are you not citing that as a blatant example of misogyny?  Misogyny is a catchy word in vogue as a result of women falling for the feminism movement, which placed women in direct competition to men. The local gym is prime example. Women bitching about men ogling their barely contained butts and boobs. Talk about taking up space. IMO, you are exhibiting classic symptoms of a brainwashed MSM follower with your unhinged and intolerant rant on Trump. With a quick, emotional passage, you dismiss more than half of the people in the USA, both men and women,  as racists, misogynists, felon worshipping boneheads. Incredibly, self absorbed and uninformed. Sit down, be humble. Indeed.

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eriksg
+1 Distrakted Carlos Matutes Kristian Øvrum

Look, it's okay to feel hurt and angry about things people say about men. You get to have your feelings. The author is very clear about her feelings.

But it's not very effective to tell other people how *they* should feel. Discriminations "far worse than anything you have experienced" is a huge value judgement, and frankly has no basis. You could tell us how Trudeau made you feel. But don't tell somebody how they felt about being assaulted! There's no way we can understand each other if that's where we go.

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syncro
0 Carlos Matutes Kristian Øvrum

@luckylegs based on your comment that feminism is about placing women in direct competition with men then I think your understanding of what feminism is about needs some reflection. Based on this, I feel your interpretation of the article seems to stem from the very sort of mindset the article is trying to address.  

In the world of peer counseling there is the concept of the generosity of assumption or giving people the benefit of the doubt, which means having the generosity to not go straight to a negative assumption, particularly when emotionally fraught subjects are being discussed. You talk about brainwashing, yet your own response is full of the very type charged comments you’re railing against. 

My question to you is what has happened in your life that you feel so aggrieved that you need to be dismissive of women wanting to stand up for fair treatment by society?

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mikeferrentino
+4 bikedrd Carlos Matutes Lacy Kemp BeesIntheTrap SpeedyChix Kristian Øvrum

Her friend described an instance that reflected how she felt all the time - encroached upon and physically intimidated by men. That was not a condemnation of all males, those are the words you chose to use to negate the legitimacy of her feelings. Which, in a way, is a perfect lead in to mansplaining.

Misogyny is not a "catchy word in vogue as a result of women falling for the feminist movement". It is the description of a mindset that is abusive or demeaning toward women. Given that women have been treated as chattel, possessions and broodmares for most of our known history, the only people I know who do not seem to acknowledge that the prevailing social construct is heavily biased and advantageous toward males are... wait for it, misogynists. If you do not think that there has been systematic and deliberate oppression of women for the majority of our history, regardless of culture, I would suggest that maybe you need to do some reading.

Trying to prop up a stance by bringing trans athletes in smells like bias and paranoia, and a weak straw man that has nothing at all to do with what Lacy was writing about. Following that up with a nudge toward "barely constrained butts and boobs" at the gym? They must have been asking for it, right? How dare they.

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lacykemp
+2 Flatted-again ShawMac SpeedyChix Kristian Øvrum

Thanks for writing, luckylegs. Most of all thanks for reading. Clearly the target demo was reached.

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Flatted-again
-1 Kristian Øvrum

That’s a lot of writing for some lazy thinking, luckylegs.

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NickM
-3 Konrad ohio shutter2ride

This article dropped a couple of days too late, in my opinion. I'm so sorry that those things happened to you.

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Konrad
+5 Pete Roggeman Deniz Merdano Graham Driedger Luix shenzhe

This article dropped exactly when it needed to.

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Jotegir
+11 Konrad Andy Eunson Deniz Merdano dolface thaaad Mammal kaesy ohio Luix shutter2ride MeestahChow

Regardless of intent "I'm so sorry that those things happened to you" has always read as one of the most egregious non-apologies out there, hahaha.

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tehllama42
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Helpfully, this chestnut from 8 years ago holds up phenomenally well.
https://nsmb.com/articles/stuck-in-an-echo-chamber/ 

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