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Review

Race Face Turbine Wheels

Photos Deniz Merdano
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Race Face's latest Turbine wheels have a clear focus: catering to the demands of enduro and aggressive trail riders. Drawing feedback from their racers and mechanics, Race Face has refined the Turbine wheels to endure more rigorous use without sacrificing performance or comfort.

The Tubines come as full wheels only and are available in 29” and 27.5”. They have a 30mm interior width with a 28-hole spoke count in the front and rear. Out of the box they are tubeless ready and 5 spare spokes are included with each wheel. They are available in boost and super boost with Microspline or XD cassette options. I’m running a mullet, 148mm width, XD freehub with 6-bolt rotors.

Rims

The rims are made from 6069 welded alloy - the same material as the Turbine R35 wheels Trevor reviewed two years back. The cross-sectional shape of the front and rear rims are different in order to accommodate the specific roles of each wheel. Both rims are 30mm wide, however the front wheel has a shallower profile to improve compliance, traction and cornering feel. The rear wheel has a deeper profile for increased strength as impacts are always greater in the back. In their design, RF included their proprietary anvil edge rim hook technology which is supposed to reduce the likelihood of pinch flats. No flats yet, so I am happy to continue my flat-free streak (I ride with DoubleDown casings).

Hubs

The Turbine wheels come with Race Face's Vault hubs. A bit of an unusual shape when you first see them but the oversized shell is intended to add stiffness and stability. The end caps and driver bodies can be removed without tools for easy and quick access. Pulling off my cassette after roughly 60 rides in the dead of dusty summer, the rear hub looks well greased and ready to last at least until the next atmospheric river. With 120 points of engagement (3 degrees of rotation between bite points), these hubs engage almost instantaneously. Both front and rear are designed with straight pull spokes with black alloy nipples. In terms of noise pollution, they are a solid 3/5 - not too loud but could certainly be quieter. I am looking forward to seeing how these hubs stand the test of time. Take a look at Andrew's review of the Vault hubs if you’re looking for more details.

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Testing on some favourite north shore trails.

Warranty

These wheels are distinct in having comprehensive coverage under the Race Face Lifetime Warranty. They have even gone a step further in making them more affordable by reducing their price compared to the Turbine R model. The set comes to 998 CAD with the front priced at 439 CAD and the rear at 559 CAD. You can find more details around their lifetime warranty policy here but in short, if you crash and blow up your wheel, the warranty applies. If your buddy falls a dead tree onto your bike and the wheel breaks, the warranty does not apply. The warranty also does not apply to slow wear and tear on components such as hub bearings. I have managed to put a couple of dents into the rims while riding technical Whistler slabs. So, if we are talking longevity of gear use, lifetime warranty is great but not if you have a tendency to consistently break aluminum wheels. Warranty claims are also an annoying process and have the potential to drag out if stock is low.

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Thoughts

A perfect wheel is subjective, obviously, but in general we are all looking for a high performance wheel that is stiff, strong but also comfortable for a rider's unique style and terrain. Additionally, they have to be priced to match the investment. Previously, I was riding a We Are One Union front wheel and a DT Swiss EX511 rear (mullet) set up and the difference was drastic to say the least. As I completed my first descent on the Turbine wheels I remember saying to myself “Damn, this feels super soft!”. It was evident that I hadn’t fully grasped how stiff my former rims were. Considering my stature as a smaller rider, the significance of muscle fatigue is greater, especially in the context of competitive racing. Therefore, for riders of smaller builds, factors like compliance and comfort can have greater importance, potentially outweighing the allure of an unbreakable wheel.

On the flip side, perhaps you identify as the type of rider who can't help but unleash absolute chaos on equipment – we all have a friend who manages to break anything and everything. If you find yourself in this unfortunate category, the logical choice would lean toward an invincible wheel, quite possibly fashioned from carbon. In this scenario, emphasis would shift to the wheel's ability to withstand relentless punishment at the expense of additional physical endurance.

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The physical fatigue from the decreased compliance associated with carbon rims is less of a consideration if you are a larger rider with loads of upper body strength, understandably. However, as a small human with limited upper body strength, it’s something I need to take into consideration and having noticed a drastic change on my first ride, it was a bit of a light bulb moment for me. I don’t think smaller riders reap as much benefit out of carbon wheels as larger riders do. With that said every rider - regardless of gender or size - is different and I don’t like to generalize. My only hope is to add insight on an important variable that has never come up in discussions with my riding peers.

To recap, I have spent approximately 100 hours riding these wheels covering 580km with a few days in the bike park. No flats, but a couple of minor dents to the rims so far. I will update my review if there are any future durability issues.

Even if you consider yourself an intermediate rider, the likelihood of OEM wheels lasting you more than a season is slim. Wheels are a big purchase, financially and emotionally, and many riders are not willing to bite the carbon bullet for a multitude of reasons. Consumers are increasingly concerned with the longevity of expensive gear and a lifetime warranty on a quality pair of aluminum wheels can provide peace of mind, knowing that they are making a long term investment in a reliable product. Kudos to Race Face for backing up their product!

About the rider:

Emma Le Rossignol

Age: 29

Weight: 130lbs

Height: 5'2"

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mudhoney
+11 Deniz Merdano DanL Andrew Major Hardlylikely Emma Le Rossignol Pete Roggeman Velocipedestrian Blofeld shenzhe Karin Grubb okiecalvin

I haven't thought much previously about compliance vs stiffness in context of a rider's weight/build - good insight Emma!

And being able to read gear reviews from someone close to my height, weight, build, etc... is so much more meaningful than trying to extrapolate - looking forward to more!

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pete@nsmb.com
+3 Velocipedestrian BarryW mudhoney

Noted, Penny ;)  And we agree. Emma did a great job of contextualizing these wheels for her use case and it's certainly interesting hearing about how someone with her parameters reacts to wheels like this. At 195 lbs, it's a lot different for me - I can feel the compliance of aluminum rims and like the feel, but I also appreciate the stiffness of carbon for my heftier frame. Reviews are only valuable if context is taken into account and it's important for both the reviewer and the reader to realize that.

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Emleross
+3 BarryW mudhoney Karin Grubb

Thanks Penny, glad I can give a new perspective that resonates with a different audience.

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denomerdano
+4 finbarr bishopsmike Pete Roggeman Curveball

The new generation aluminum rims are changing the game for us lighter and smoother riders. 

The DT Swiss EX 1700 is my new benchmark and these turbines are definitely up there, especially backed with that warranty.

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Sebov
+3 Pete Roggeman Niels van Kampenhout Nologo

With my 75kg/165lbs I ride Newmen alloy rims on 3 wheelsets since a couple of years (SL.A and A30 with Gen 1.5 and Fade Newmen hubs and DT350 hubs) all are still running. No dents. I just popped one spoke after 3 years on my SL.A 30 wheelset. But I did not true them once to be honest. ~1800g per set. I have a wheel builder who makes the A30 with DT 350 for 380€. Why should I ever buy a (too) stiff and expensive carbon wheelset? Makes no sense to me. 

Lots of amateur racing friends are on 481/511 sets or combos and would never go back. A few of them were some time before sponsored by Pivot with Reynolds carbon rims: „Love my alloy DT wheelsets. Fixing wheelsets with broken spokes/rims by my own every weekend was a disaster.“

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rwalters
+6 Curveball itsky21 Mike Ferrentino kcy4130 Kyle Dixon Kos

I feel like you're calling me a fat hack.

I will allow it.

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Lowcard
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I also have the 1700s which makes me not miss carbon rims

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Kenny
+3 Mammal Velocipedestrian Kos

My previous gen turbines started breaking spokes after about a year (rear wheel), broke 3 spokes in 10 rides. 

I relaced the vault hub to a new rim - I think those hubs are an awesome design, but I almost wish they made a slightly more expensive version of the turbines that had j bend spokes, so when the wheel dies you're still left with a great hub (as it is you're left with a great straight pull hub which is still ok but not ideal).

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joewlo
+3 Pete Roggeman bishopsmike Emma Le Rossignol

Great article Emma! Lifetime warranty is a big deal for relatively inexpensive aluminum wheels, by a company with a presence in the lower mainland not to say the least.

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bishopsmike
+2 finbarr Kos

I know not everyone prefers carbon rims, but when a great set of We Are One Unions on i9 hubs are $1,399 (and 15% off promo  codes often exist, bringing that set to under $200 more than these Race Face wheels), it's wouldn't really be a tough decision for me.  I think if these come on sale for $700-800 range, they would sell well.

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NotMeAtAll
+1 nplusplus

I'm gonna go back at Ibis for their new aluminuim wheelset for indestructible. Jeff Kendall set up a jump to the side of a steel beam, and while he could barely break a rear Chris King rim, he couldn't do the same with the Ibis wheel.

The Blackbird Send wheel is 529 usd, 99 per rim, with lifetime warranty on the rim and 2 years on the hub. That is the better choice for me.

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Taz123
+1 Stephen Gaucher

I'm a Clydesdale-sized rider and while I love the Turbines + vaults, I have struggled with the rear vault hub reliability. After some time, they tend to develop a creak, which has been found to be shell/body interface glue starting to disengage. I've gone through two hubs with this issue.

Having said that, RaceFace warranty is amazing and they replaced them without a challenge.

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finbarr
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I'm glad they come with the Vault hub. I've had a bunch of issues with my Trace hub- I keep breaking bearings. Thankfully, Race Face has been good with the warranty, but it still means the wheel has been out of commission for a few weeks.

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zombo
+5 DBone57 kmag76 dhr999 finbarr cshort7

I've never had anything from Raceface with bearings that lasted longer than 3 months.  Their tolerances must be absolute crap.  When I hear about the new, improved Raceface all I can do is laugh as I send my v2 Atlas pedals back for the 3rd time in 6 months with shot bearings.  Call me crazy but I think a $200 set of pedals should be able to make it more than a couple months of summer riding.

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FlipSide
+3 bishopsmike DanL Tremeer023

I have 3 sets of RF Vaults hubs and they are very reliable. The oldest one dates from 2018.

Can't speak for their other products, but these Vault hubs are very good IME.

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finbarr
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yeah that just happened to one of my buddies. had a squeaking sound from his new atlas pedals, and the bearing was shot.

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dbozman
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Did I miss the weight?

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bishopsmike
+1 Curveball hardtailhersh Cooper Quinn

130lbs, 5'2"

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DBone57
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I'm sure he was looking for wheelset weight..

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Ceecee
-1 dhr999

Catherine Dynastar, Fanny Völkl, Marianne Fischer, Elinor Madshus, Elizabeth Head, George Salomon, Frank Peltonen, Fitzwilliam Kneissl, Henry Hart, Colonel Brandon Il Fiore

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Curveball
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Emleross
+4 bishopsmike DanL Tjaard Breeuwer cshort7

I didn't add the weight to the article as I don't trust the numbers given on the website and forgot to measure out of the box. Website says 1865g (29" front) and 1802g (27.5" rear)  ...

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Curveball
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Those would be some very heavy wheels. I think that would be a full wheelset weight.

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joewlo
-1 bishopsmike

that's pretty pretty light for a full wheelset!

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pete@nsmb.com
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At that price, you're right.

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Blofeld
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“the likelihood of OEM wheels lasting you more than a season is slim“

Hahaha, I would like to know more!

Thanks for the review. Considering the double down (Conti DH?) tires you were running and the lack of inserts (I assume from the couple of dents you mentioned) can you speak more to the compliance sweet spot? It’s not too surprising that the WR1 rims at roughly the same tonnage (and warranty coverage) would be much stiffer. Have you tried a ~1500g carbon wheelset? Inserts and single ply sidewalls?

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Emleross
+2 Blofeld cshort7

I’ve managed to slash any tire that is lighter casing than exo+ (with and without inserts). Decided to upgrade to DD/conti DH casings and take out the inserts so save a bit of weight. Compliance sweet spot probably has to do more with the tire pressure at this point than anything. I’m not as consistent as I could be with psi running between 18-21 front and 20-23 rear. Yes to carbon set, I was riding my stumpy evo as a full 29 with the set of WR1 unions for a while. Switched to 27.5 aluminum rear.

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cshort7
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It's great to see the perspective of another lighter rider (I'm around 140 with gear), and I'd love to hear more in the future!

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kos
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Kenny FTW: "but I almost wish they made a slightly more expensive version of the turbines that had j bend spokes".

IMO life is too short for straight pull spokes.

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