Stretching the legs on Trek's Top Fuel
More? Better?
Going Long With The Top Fuel
This is feeling a bit like my personal Groundhog Day at this point. I have lost count of the number of times now that I’ve decided to lengthen the travel of a given bike, or take a long travel bike and put it on a diet, or cut the ear off a sow and fashion it into a silk purse. Yet here I am again, deciding to Frankenstein up the Trek Top Fuel I reviewed last summer.
Why? What is wrong with me? Why can’t I just ride the bike I am sent, quit scratching this compulsive itch, and be happy? Gah. I’ve written about that chicken/egg set of motivations enough too, arguing both sides of the same coin, until I am completely tarred by a brush coated in my own hypocrisy.
But this time, it’s gonna be different. THIS TIME, I am performing a Trek endorsed Top Fuel stretchotomy, adding a modest 10mm of travel at each end of the bike and keeping the faffing to a strategic minimum. This time, I am keeping the paint between the lines.
Trek sells the Top Fuel as a 120mm rear travel bike, usually pairing it with a 130mm fork. As such, the venerable but recently revamped Top Fuel occupies something of a trail-bike no-man’s-land. It has more travel than most dedicated XC bikes, as well as more weight and a ride characteristic that aspires more toward comfort and tractability than blazing acceleration. But it is substantially lighter than most of the current crop of 130-140mm trail bikes, and as such feels a lot more nimble in tight going as well as much more fun to point uphill when compared to some of the plow-oriented competition. It also comes with a nifty little Mino Link at the lower shock mount, allowing for some fudging between more or less progressive shock rates as well as some bb height/head angle adjustment. And, again, Trek absolutely says “go for it” when it comes to adding a little travel to the mix. So, why not? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
The stretchotomy itself is pretty straightforward. In the case of the 9.8 GX AXS Top Fuel I’m riding, I needed to procure a longer air shaft for the RockShox Pike fork and install it. That took about a half hour, but only because I lost some time drinking beer and looking for a syringe to spooge some oil back into the lowers. Seriously, it’s stupid easy. Just be careful not to scratch the shaft when removing or installing the circlip that holds the air shaft in place.
For the rear, there are travel limit tokens inside the 185x50mm RockShox Deluxe Ultimate shock that can be removed upon disassembly, leaving you with a 185x55mm shock and a travel bump from 120 to 130-ish-mm. However, the sag and travel info anodized onto the shaft will no longer be accurate. So, there’s that to consider. Not a huge deal.
In my case, Trek went low-key upgrade sneaky on me and offered up a 185x55mm Super Deluxe Ultimate piggyback unit with adjustable high and low speed compression damping and hydraulic bottom out. This is kinda cheating, since instead of just pulling the shock apart and yanking the travel limiters, I installed a roughly $600 shock. On the plus side, it’s a very swank upgrade and it takes about five minutes to swap a shock as opposed to maybe an hour spent getting shock oil on my hands. On the minus side, it makes the bike a couple hundred grams heavier and adds $600 to the price tag.
So, the fork ends up 10mm taller, and the rear stays the same, but bottoms out 10mm deeper. Because of this, I flipped the Mino Link from low to high, in order to keep the head angle about the same as it was before (65.5 degrees), but to bring the pedals up so that I wouldn’t be smashing them into the ground all the time. Between the fork getting taller and the chip getting flipped, the bottom bracket went from 345mm to 354mm. All in all, it was a pretty basic swap. I weigh 190 geared up to ride at the moment, so pumped the fork up to 80psi and left it with one air volume token. Both high and low speed compression dials ended up smack in the middle. Rebound also ended up in the middle, 10 clicks out from fully closed. This is faster than I might have gone in the past, but I am trying to keep up with the cool kids here at nsmb.com and get with the times.
Rear setup took some more finagling to get right. I am currently running about 27% sag, in this case 195psi. Low speed compression knob is turned all the way closed (not sure it really is doing much, but am still bracketing runs trying to feel something), and high speed compression is two clicks out from closed. Rebound is 6 clicks out from closed.
In terms of how things have changed, the bike is now a mix of “hell yes, awesome!” and “swatting it with a rolled up newspaper doesn’t seem to be helping when it pees on the floor.” I am going to break this down into two parts: suspension action and handling dynamics.
Suspension Action
I gotta say, I am finally really warming up to RockShox suspension. The fork was impressive at 130mm when I first tested the bike. Opening it up to 140 just sets up more of a good thing. Really nice small bump compliance, responsive and tuneable mid-range, and it behaves really well everywhere from the loose small rock garbage that covers trails everywhere down here in Baja on up through ledgy chatter up into dropping into holes that eat up most of the travel. It’s a very composed, well controlled suspension unit. Adding 10mm of travel enhanced and improved the comfort and the range of the fork.
The shock is something. As far as suspension performance goes, it’s kind of a cheat code. But it took some fiddling to get it where I wanted it, and I don’t think I’m done fiddling yet. First off, at 120mm, Trek recommends sag of around 30%. This felt good to me, and the bike struck a good balance between responsiveness and plushness (relatively speaking, as far as 120mm travel bikes go). Bumping the travel, and with the variable of an entirely different shock thrown into the mix, and that 30% sag number now felt a little too active, too bobby, too deep in the stroke when pedaling around. Yes, it was substantially more plush and tractable, but it felt a bit choppered out and no matter what I did with the low speed compression knob the only way I felt comfortable when climbing was if I threw the lockout switch from open to firm. None of this had been an issue at 120mm.
After a few rides, I arrived at the settings I mentioned above. Less sag brought the ride height where I wanted it and quelled the bob to tolerable levels. Cranking in the low speed compression didn’t seem to have much impact on the bob or the small bump behavior but might, mmmmaaayyyybe having an effect on the ride height, and cranking the high speed in a couple clicks definitely calmed things down in a positive way. It climbs just as well as it did before, but has more tractability and more squishy comfort through to about three quarters travel, then it just quietly eats up whatever the hell I am doing as I try to reach bottom out. Like, super quietly. I mean, ridiculously quietly. The downside to this is that it’s not really a 130mm bike now, because the sag combined with the progression in the air can, combined with that ohhhh, so sweet hydraulic bottom out, well, it’s a challenge to smash all the travel out, at least as far as being an old geezer floating around on loose chundery trails trying not to get stabbed by cactus.
This is all to say, damn. That is a mighty good shock. I think there’s a ton of potential here, and I also think that potential really does broaden the capability of what the Top Fuel can handle. But, that said, it takes some fiddling to get it dialed. And, I suspect it’s not quite gonna be a “one setting to rule them all” kind of thing. I look forward to getting into some different terrain to find out just how it all comes together. But in the meantime, daaaaaang.
Handling Dynamics
Here’s where it gets sticky. And here’s where we get back to that old chestnut of leopards trying to change their spots, or something like that. While the suspension capability definitely improved, I can’t say the same for the handling. I think there are a few things contributing to this. First, the bottom bracket sits almost a centimeter higher. This means that the saddle is also a centimeter higher, and the entire center of gravity went uphill. Sure, when riding, in dynamic motion, that should all kinda relatively pan out, but my princess and the pea brain swears it feels “different” tipping into turns now. This may also be just one of those things I get used to. Or, maybe, I need to get some cranks that are 10mm shorter, then drop the bottom bracket back down, then see how things feel. But right now, it’s a thing I am trying to come to terms with that does not feel as awesome as it did before.
Secondly, I weigh 190. The Top Fuel, while not the lightest bike in the world, has a carefully built and respectfully lightweight chassis. The Pike, while having a whopping 1mm more stanchion diameter than a Fox 34, is also a relative lightweight. The bike feels more flexy now than it did before. Again, this may just be something I need to get used to, but it is something I am perceiving in terms of how the wheels follow each other when tracking through fast chunder or when trying to carve chattery turns. It doesn’t ruin the ride, but it does not feel more surefooted than before (except for the fact that the suspension DOES feel better than before and that helps mitigate what I think is going on with the handling). I suspect this is a sensation that varies dramatically dependent upon the weight and aggression level of the rider. I think I am, at my weight and ride feel preferences, more in the market for a shortened Fox 36 than a stretched out 34 or Pike. 150lb riders who tend to keep the wheels on the ground may never even notice. But big aggro people almost certainly will. Some will not care, others might. By comparison, the Transition Smuggler (130mm rear travel) and Privateer 141 that I just rotated through both felt ridiculously stiff and super planted. They also weighed something like five and nine pounds more, respectively.
Here We Are. Again.
Like I said, groundhog day. In some ways, this was a revelation. That Super Deluxe Ultimate shock is pretty damn impressive. The longer Pike holds its own. The Top Fuel has some raaaaange. But on the other hand, modern trail bikes are all getting heavy for valid reasons. Stretch the travel on light bikes and they start getting flexy. Hell, we didn’t even talk about how the stock Gunnison and Montrose tires that I felt favorably about in Colorado at 120mm travel suddenly felt like little death pucks at 130mm travel in the southern end of the Vizcaino desert. And how the brakes that kinda sucked before REALLY sucked once there was some super plush extra travel on tap allowing me to reef into the apexes a little hotter.
This all may come across like an overwrought bunch of hand wringing about compromise, again. I'm thinking my way through a conundrum that has been dogging me for decades. I am nevertheless impressed with how this particular part swapping experiment has gone. I can work with this.
I added half a pound of shock weight and gained a half a bike worth of added capability. The Top Fuel still climbs beautifully, it is ridiculously comfortable, and since I do not intend to start looking for new gap jumps to case, I can adapt around the flex and consider it a fair trade for how well everything else works. Which is a good thing. Because I’m in Mexico for three months, I went on record saying I was going to be bagging 10 hours a week of saddle time, and this is the bike I brought with me. So, in the spirit of the holiday just past and the second best Christmas movie of all time; “yippee ki yay, motherfuckers.”
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Velocipedestrian
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Obligatory It's not a Rabbit it's a Jackalope.
And to answer your first question - "Why? What is wrong with me? Why can’t I just ride the bike I am sent, quit scratching this compulsive itch, and be happy?" - because bike Lego is part of the pleasure. Embrace it, bespoke is generally more interesting than product managed.
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two-one
3 weeks ago
Mike, don't forget about the difference in the aircans of the Deluxe shox. You seem to have gone from a low-neg-volume to a high-neg-volume aircan. In my experience that has a bigger influence on the rear suspension characteristics than just those 10mm extra of travel, or the change in damping mechanism.
If you feel like experimenting a bit more... try switching back to the old shock, and switch the aircan.
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Lynx .
3 weeks ago
Valid point if that's the case, would definitely be interested to hear how it performs with the stock shock and travel spacer removed.
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks ago
True, and then there's whatever volume spacers are in the can. Because I don't always think things through very well, I didn't bring the old shock with me. So, not only will I be unable to compare can sizes for the next two months, I won't have a spare shock to poach extra volume spacers from, nor will I have a standby shock in case something goes poochy with this one. Rookie move on my part.
But, as it sits right now, I like that the larger can is probably a bit less progressive, even though I felt that the stock setup was well matched to the leverage rate of the bike at 120mm travel. But to your point, that extra volume could absolutely be contributing to the extra mid-stroke motion when running at 30% sag. I'll make a note to do some parts swapping when I get back north, which should coincide with an overdue shock service by then.
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Vincent Edwards
2 weeks, 5 days ago
I was thinking the same thing, but would like to see Mike run the Super Deluxe with the travel reduction spacer to get back to 120mm. Then the two shocks can we swapped between rides to really feel out the differences.
And definitely try shorter cranks (maybe just 5mm shorter?) with that lower BB setting. 10mm of BB height can create a BIG difference in ride dynamics. I notice this to the degree that I often prefer shorter travel bikes just to keep the BB lower even if they are over gunned a bit.
3 months is a nice amount of time to play around. I look forward to hearing more!
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Kerry Williams
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Oh why do we torture ourselves with the "What if I just change......"? hahaha. I keep looking at the Top Fuel and the Chromag Darco with equal amounts of lust. Meanwhile my beautiful 2020 Fuel EX brings me great joy every time I hop on it.
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Kos
3 weeks ago
The 2020 Fuel EX is an astounding Swiss Army Knife of a bike!
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Kerry Williams
3 weeks ago
It really is. I have a bad habit of "oooo! look at that!" But then, I take another look at my Fuel and think, "look at that lovely thing." One day I'll figure out how to stop toruring myself, LOL.
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Kerry Williams
3 weeks ago
I was also lucky enough to find an XT model with the Fox 36. Absolutely ideal for my 190lbs chasis.
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Andy Eunson
2 weeks, 6 days ago
I think it’s great that Trek offer bikes that they invite you to tweak and play with geometry and suspension travel. My own Fuel EX has that headset cup deal but I went upstream against the current and steepened the head angle. Plus a Fairbike offset seat post head lets me move the chair back a couple centimetres for my preferred riding position. Hey if Pinkbike says to do X it’s probably better to do Y.
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Spencer Nelson
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I can only assume the greatest Christmas movie of all time is National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation?
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Nope.
I have always run hot and cold with the humor of Chevy Chase. I thought the first Vacation was amazing, and Fletch was wonderful, but that's about it. His kind of funny doesn't always sit right with me. Apologies to the Chevy Chase fans out there. I also never really could deal with the fact that they kept switching out Rusty and Audrey with different actors for each new Vacation movie...
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taprider
3 weeks, 1 day ago
so what is the best Christmas movie?
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks ago
I was hoping this would devolve into a long argument about what constitutes the best christmas movie, and that everyone would get super amped up about their particular choice, but we can't always get what we want. So, my submission: Olive, The Other Reindeer. 1999.
I'd rank Elf a close second.
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taprider
2 weeks, 6 days ago
never heard of Olive before, so I looked it up
definitely gets the Cute Award
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s54sLlRNmHc
Christmas Story is still my vote
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Kos
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Olive, an emphatic YES.
Big NO to anything Will Ferrell, including Elf. Burn him like a witch (except for Celebrity Jeopardy).
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Mike Ferrentino
2 weeks, 6 days ago
I've always been fascinated by how we can react so differently to comedians. I am a huge fan of physical comedians, and think Jim Carrey is an absolute genius on so many levels, but I've struggled to like his movies. On the other hand, I am a huge Will Ferrell fan, even though he has a similarly dominant way of being grating to Carrey. John Cleese could do no wrong, but it always felt to me like Eric Idle was trying too hard. As a kid, I loathed Jerry Lewis. Now, I am in awe of his early schtick.
AndrewR
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Die Hard
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Tehllama42
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Somehow my only contribution is that movies with J. K. Simmons as Santa are generally underrated (though Klaus is better than Red1)
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Cr4w
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I'm pretty sure First Blood takes place at Christmas.
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Fair point, but nope.
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Kos
5 days, 9 hours ago
For anybody still playing along, here is a take on reducing travel and lightening the bike in general:
https://flowmountainbike.com/tests/2025-trek-top-fuel-review-120mm-xc-bike/
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Kos
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Great perspective. I’m doing this to my TF this winter. Fork is installed, Fox DPS simply needs a service and two minute removal of the 5mm travel limiting spacer. I’ll monkey with the flip chip a few times, but oddly enough, this is the first Trek I’ve owned where I prefer the slack setting, so I’ll probably leave it there and drop the bars 5 mm and call it good enough.
Interesting point on flex. I’ve got 10 pounds on you, and yes, there is some flex in the frame — perhaps more noticeable to me, as I came to this bike directly from the previous Top Fuel, which was a brick, and I miss that.
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Lynx .
3 weeks, 1 day ago
@Kos. So curious, why did you move from a bike you liked to this new one, was there some ground shattering improvement???? Seriously can't figure the whole need a new bike every couple of years thing, I hold onto and ride mine for 5++ years and tinkering with an older bike to "bring it up to modern trends/standards" is a lot more fun.
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Kos
3 weeks ago
Short Answer: I had no choice.
Longe Answer: Needing a new BB, and having a bunch of fun family stuff filling up time, I dropped it off on my way by a favorite LBS. They fixed it, test rode it, and hung it off the nose of the saddle on a Park bike stand like we've all done a thousand times.........and it fell off, landed just wrong, and busted the frame. Was not at all looking to replace it.
FOCK!!!!!!!
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BarryW
3 weeks ago
Fell off the work stand and broke the frame? Crazy.
Did that mean they gave you a new frame or how did that end up working out for you?
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Kos
3 weeks ago
They ponied up for a new frame and build, while the local Trek store helped them out on pricing. Everybody behaved at their best, under shitty circumstances.
I suspect somebody like Calfee or Ruckus could repair the frame at a reasonable price, and it’s hanging in my shop, so let me know…..XL. :-)
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Lynx .
3 weeks ago
If I lived in NA Kos, XL is my size, would definitely be seriously thinking about taking you up on that offer. To have something similar to my Phantom, but 5lb+ lighter would be amazing. Friend has a Revel Ranger with XT and a SID that I spec'd and built for him during covid and it weighs about 27.5lbs and it's absolutely amazing, wish it was mine.
Lynx .
3 weeks ago
Oh damn, sorry man, that really sucks. This is why when I'm working on carbon frames I do the same thing, except I then also put an old toe strap around the seatpost to the stand since it's such a slight purchase and you can easily walk past and brush it and push it off.
Fully understand the "just wrong" aspect and its something I think a lot don't understand, the engineers design it to be strong and take force in "X" direction, but give it the littlest knock from the opposite direction and you have a crack, it's why I hate carbon and stick to alu or steel.
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Onawalk
3 weeks ago
try not to slip while hopping off that podium youve propped yourself on.
Ill never understand the need to replace your bike every 5 years when you can just keep tinkering on the one you have....
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Kos
2 weeks, 6 days ago
I’m missing something here. Is that directed at me, because I replaced a broken frame after only two and a half seasons of riding?
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Onawalk
2 weeks, 6 days ago
My reply was not directed at KOS, directed squarely at Lynx.
For some reason, he has taken exception to those that swap out their gear more regularly than he agrees with. His comment could have ended with the question, but somehow he felt compelled to climb onto his horse of misplaced superiority.....I might need something to eat.....
Side note, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when your frame came crashing down and the realization that it was broke. Stoked to hear all parties came together to help you out.
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Kos
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Cheers, I figured as much. Nobody was happy, and everybody behaved like adults.
Jotegir
2 weeks, 4 days ago
Where are you feeling the flex Kos? I had my previous gen TF (also in XL) at 140/~130 and thought it was plenty stout, apparently the weight savings in the frame generation over generation wasn't free!
I ended up getting rid of my TF last spring as I realized it was my only ~120-140mm bike that had any inherent value and I had too many of them already. I don't think anybody would be lining up for my at-home-carbon-repair and DIY paint job Instinct!
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SteveR
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Very interested in following your journey with the TF. As a certified geezer who fits your riding profile very closely, I have been thinking about re-adding (it's been 5 years) an FS to my "quiver of one", more or less modern 140 hardtail. Especially, after beginning to feel a bit beat up riding some very rocky and rooty things this summer, and being impressed by a brief ride on the current TF which would rank as one of my top choices right now. Looking forward to future thoughts...
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bk
2 weeks, 6 days ago
So would the transition smuggler be more suited for hard charging..??..you say you experienced more flex..the top fuel frame considerably more flexy than than the smuggler that you've ridden..and a question on sizing ..did you test the large with the smuggler also and how does the fit feel between the fuel and the smuggler..would love some comparisons..might make for a good article..
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Mike Ferrentino
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Not sure it's worth an article, since I am already mining the shit out of the 120-130 travel vein. But, to your points:
The Smuggler is definitely a more heavily built frame and to my senses it felt like there was less lateral deflection in the chassis. I tested the large Smuggler and a Large Top Fuel. The Smuggler has a longer reach by 8mm, 485mm vs 477mm on the Trek, but the effective seat angle on the Smuggler is almost two degrees steeper, so that negates the reach difference. Fit doesn't feel massively different between the two, but personal preference in effective seat tube angle will dictate things for most people. I prefer the Trek because my femurs are not super long and I am finding that steeper seat angles are great for steep techy climbs but I don't like the way my hips and knees feel when spinning circles for extended periods otherwise. But that is just me. Nearly everyone else I know is firmly in the "steeper is better" camp.
Wheelbase on the Smuggler is 20mm longer than the TF. That is the big tell between the two. And it is very noticeable. The TF does not feel like an XC bike. Until you get off the Smuggler and climb straight onto the TF. The Smuggler does fine at all-around trail riding, but it really punches above its weight in rough stuff at speed. The TF by contrast feels a lot lighter and more agile when it comes to tight going and climbing, and it does a great job all around but it will run out of comfort at speed before the Smuggler will.
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Kos
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Not sure if this is cool, but for an alternate view of this conversion, see Australia’s Flow MTB article:
https://flowmountainbike.com/tests/trek-top-fuel-review-140-130mm-travel/
Worth noting is that they used the OEM shock, with travel extended from 50 to 55 mm.
(mods, feel free to delete if this is a policy no-no)
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Lynx .
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Thanks for the link, started reading, but it's super long and in depth, so will have to get back to it.
Just a little caveat/note about that author though, although he seems to be about Mike height, he's 40lbs+ lighter, so it'll feel different to him stiffness wise for sure.
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Mike Ferrentino
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Young Wil is also a much better rider than me! Guy Kesteven (who is a bit more svelte than me) also recently stretched his Top Fuel and was exceptionally happy with the results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n5M9v5HC4Q
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Tehllama42
2 weeks, 6 days ago
Definitely feels a bit like the 'horses for courses' argument all over again, but with a much more consistent baseline (and back to the original argument of whether Guerrilla Gravity had the right idea making a single front triangle).
I still feel like each iteration of this I go through, the improvements in suspension damping lead me to needing tires so heavy that I keep reinventing a velcro bike for the travel value, and being repeatedly confused why my cheap hardtail with a hand-me-down 140mm Pike is the most potent and fun bike I have.
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Lynx .
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Interesting Mike, like the tinkering, it's what we start to do, more and more the longer we've been doing this thing called MTBing, I love tinkering about equal to actually riding and managing to get extra out of something always feels good.
I have a couple thoughts...First, curious if you measured the saddle to bar drop before the conversion and after? Since you describe yourself like me, "Princes and the Pea" you can/will probably feel 2.5mm difference in bar to saddle drop and while you extended the travel 10mm, that was not a vertical extension, but angled, so more like the front raised 7-8mm, so that's something to think about. Last weekend I moved my bar up 2.5mm on the Phantom as I was cruising around on it and it felt fine for that as I was holding/carrying stuff, but then yesterday before I headed out to ride, rode over to my bros and it felt high, dropped it the 2.5mm and felt perfect again. Also, was feeling a stiff and hamstrings were a bit tight week before, been doing some stretching this week, sol also something to consider.
Second, yes it's going to handle/feel different if you've raised the BB by 10mm, most definitely, but if you're riding more chundery trails, then the extra BB height is a good thing and you will just need to learn to adapt to this new geo, like how when you first got on a bike with a much longer front end and had to learn to/remember to make sure and weight the front more or wash in turns.
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I dropped the stem 5mm, but felt that this made the whole floaty-flexy newness harder to deal with. I had already been thinking that maybe the stem should be going up instead of down before the suspension stretch, so I put it back where it had been and that felt better, then I raised it another 5mm and liked that even more. I am noticing that the front is a little harder to keep exactly where I want it on steep climbs, but aside from that I'm more comfortable overall now.
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JohnC
3 weeks, 1 day ago
It would be interesting for you to do a side by side between your modified Top Fuel and the Gen 5 Fuel EX which is 130/140 to see if they compare....I would expect the flex issues might be resolved but perhaps lose the nimbleness or climbing ability. It looks like Trek still offers the Gen 5's in addition to the Gen 6's which are 140/150.
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Blofeld
3 weeks ago
The collective riders of the Internet cringe as area man puts his mountain bike into the ‘high’ position.
I didn’t think this was even allowed (except for mullet compatibility). Then the part about the rear shock’s dials not doing anything…it’s like a horror movie!
Thanks for a good review series, Mike. I really like that there’s still a 27lb trailbike for sale in this world.
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Mike Ferrentino
3 weeks ago
I may still drop it back, the terrain around here is not too heinous as far as pedal strikes go. The trails at home are murder on pedals to begin with, so staying low there while bottoming 10mm closer to the ground would have been an absolute nightmare. Unless I jump on the short crank bandwagon.
And, just to clarify, the dials do things. The rebound and HSC are absolutely noticeable. The LSC is a lot less noticeable on this shock than many others I have ridden, but I might not be assessing it the right way. I need to do some more very specific bracketed runs in that regard.
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Blofeld
3 weeks ago
Fair enough, pedal strikes are quite annoying. The BB height didn’t look excessively low in the table, although I admit there’s no certainty around those numbers. My thought was that the lengthened fork raises the BB some and it’s quite difficult to pedal at full bottom out.
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Kos
2 weeks, 6 days ago
After much reading, and analysis paralysis, I'm considering pairing my new 140 mm Pike with the stock rear shock, set up with a smaller VR.
I never use full travel, so this might give me all the added plushness I at least think I'm looking for.
So. Much. Fun.
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