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Mavic Crossmax XL S Wheels

Photos Mike Ferrentino
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Mavic is a brand with a long and storied history. Like, since 1889 long. Like, the first ever aluminum rim history. Like those big yellow and black emblazoned cars and motorcycles offering up neutral service at the Tour De France for decades upon decades storied.

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That said, it has been a minute since the big yellow and black M has been part of the mountain bike conversation.

Once upon a time, when we all rode 26” wheels, Mavic was THE name for mountain bike hoops. The first pair of wheels I ever laced up as a shop mechanic was a set of Mavic “Paris Gao Dakar” labeled 530/536 hubs and M6 rims, somewhere around 1988 or ’89. The first ever “ooooh, this is silly light” rim that Keith Bontrager rolled out was a Mavic MA-2 road rim with a 4-spoke section cut out then repinned at a smaller diameter. Soon after that the Mavic 231CD rim became THE go-to rim for any serious XC nerd, with the beefier 261CD taking the hits from the more abusive riders. Then came the Crossmax wheelset in 1996, which was right up there with that first pewter grey XTR group in terms of cachet. Then, around the turn of the century, Mavic dropped the Crossmax UST on the world – the first ever dedicated mountain bike tubeless wheel. It utilized bladed straight pull spokes that threaded into the rim from the outside, allowing a solid aluminum rim bed with no spoke holes and therefore no need for rim tape. It was a quiet technological revolution that in retrospect might have been somewhat underappreciated.

I rode the hell out of those UST Crossmax wheels, reveling at how my Hutchinson Python tires could float along at under 30psi for the first time in my life without fear of pinch flats. After about four months, someone mentioned that there was sealant available, and my mind was blown completely. By then the rims were pretty banged up, but the wheelset still held air with remarkable consistency. The mountain bike tire game had definitively changed, and that change had been catalyzed by Mavic.

But then things got kinda shitty for Mavic. A growing number of competitors in the carbon rim market and the dance of corporate consolidation conspired to knock the venerable brand out of true. Those first Crossmax wheels came about a few years after Mavic had been bought by Salomon, ending over a century of French ownership, and a decade before the Salomon group was hoovered up by Amer Sports. Amer sold Mavic to a private equity company called Regent LP in 2019, which led to the French worker’s union getting involved and demanding deeper accountability into the terms of the sale, ultimately leading to Mavic being sold yet again a few months later to the Bourrelier Group. However, that sale resulted in Mavic once again being wholly French owned, as well as retaining the Mavic rim factory in Saint-Trivier-sur-Moignans. Nevertheless, this ushered in a period of downsizing and restructuring.

Jeez, that’s some preamble. But if anyone was wondering why it has been a while since anyone has seen any new MTB hoops from Mavic, well, there you go. NOW, we can talk about the new stuff. Because there IS new stuff, and it IS worth talking about. Case in point: Mavic’s Crossmax XL S 29 wheelset.

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What Goes Around...

All that preamble aside, Mavic is back. This is one offering in a range that includes XC and DH wheels, carbon and aluminum rims, narrow to wide, austerity-budget to make-the-wallet-cry in scope. The Crossmax XL S 29 features 30mm inner width aluminum rims, 24 bladed straight pull spokes per wheel, a star ratchet freehub mechanism, 6-bolt rotor mounts, a per set weight of 1790 grams, and a price tag of 889 USD. These numbers place the Crossmax XL S squarely in the middle of the wheel aftermarket, in a width and weight that should appeal to a broad swath of trail riders, and at a price that sets some quality expectations without making anyone’s eyeballs bleed.

The rims are asymmetrical, allowing for less disparity between bracing angles and spoke tensions between drive and non-drive sides, with excess material machined off between the spokes in a process that Mavic refers to as “Inter Spoke Milling”. This theoretically shaves weight while maintaining material where it is needed and thus retaining strength. The bladed spokes thread into the hub facing side of the rim, same as they did back with the original Crossmaxes, and to my eyeballs the spoke nipple is a dead ringer for the OG unit. At the other end, the head of the spoke fits into a slot in the hub, and should a spoke need to be replaced, the fitment is such that this can be done without having to first remove a cassette or brake rotor.

Since there are no internal spoke nipples, there are no spoke holes drilled through the rim, and the rim bed is a seamless, cleanly extruded, airtight work of art. There’s a shallow trough running down the center, a discreet patch of tape where the welded seam of the rim sits opposite the only hole drilled through the rim - where the valve is located. The valve itself has three lateral ports at the base in addition to the hole bored through its length, in the fashion of most insert-friendly valves.

Mavic use a somewhat DT-esque star ratchet freehub drive, with a single spring engaging a 24-tooth serrated freehub ratchet against its counterpart in the hub shell. The math on that works out to 15 degrees of engagement, so ultra-low engagement fans may want to take note. Two sealed bearings in the hub shell, two in the freehub, 17mm aluminum axle all the way across the hub that steps down to 15mm at the final bearing on the drive side. Provided there is a light smear of grease on the ratchet, freehub noise is a relatively muted “b-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r”. SRAM XD, Shimano HG and MicroSpline freehubs are all available, and freehub bodies can be readily swapped out without tools.

Each individual wheel ships with a valve, a pair of spare spokes, and a spoke wrench/spoke blade holding tool. Spare spokes look to be available for about $4.50 apiece.

Tire fitment is tight – so far this has been tested with Maxxis Aggressor/Dissector EXO+ tires, Bontrager Montrose and Gunnison RSL XT casings, and Specialized Purgatory T7s – but not so tight that I couldn’t wrestle the tires on and off barehanded with a little sweat and cursing. All tires beaded up easily and delivered a satisfying series of pops being inflated with a floor pump. Just for old time’s sake I aired up the Bontrager Montrose test tires to 24psi without any sealant at all and rode them for a week. I lost 3psi in 7 days.

In spite of the rim width, this feels like a forgiving wheelset in terms of compliance and stiffness. Noticeably quieter and more muted in rocky terrain than the DT EXC1501s on one of my test bikes, and about on par with the notably mellow FusionFiber/XTR wheels on my Starling. The comfort and ride damping characteristic is welcome, but there is a teeny degree of lateral twang as well that makes itself known when landing out of shape or getting a little too forceful in the wrong places. That said, the wheels didn’t lose tension or need any truing over the course of 60 rocky trail riding hours. Big riders who really murder their wheels in the rough may have different results, but those riders might also want to opt for something beefier like the Deemax Enduro or Deemax DH.

I got along well enough with the pair that were on the Mondraker test bike that I’m mounting another set up on the Starling for the remainder of the year. I like the ride quality, the price/weight formula feels about right for me, the potential ease of spoke replacement should it be necessary is very appealing, and I REALLY like how easily they bead up and how well they hold air. So far, so good. Welcome back, Mavic.

Mavic Crossmax XL S Wheels 889 USD

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cooperquinn
+6 Offrhodes42 Jotegir ohio Timer Konrad Velocipedestrian lewis collins dhr999

We're gonna talk about the history of Mavic and somehow skip right over BRIGHT YELLOW DEEMAX that were the envy of everyone, everywhere?!

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mikeferrentino
+3 ohio Timer BarryW

Everyone, everywhere, provided we're talking about the absoluuuuutely huuuuuuge DH market. Got it. Sorry, my bad.

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cooperquinn
+1 ohio

Apology accepted.

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Ripbro
+1 Jotegir

Deemax and 321 were THE rims back in the early 2000s. Always wanted a pair for yellow deemax rims. 

Instead I had neon green sun doublewides… which were horrible.

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cooperquinn
0

Which part was horrible? That they weighed as much as a house, or that they were made out of cheese?

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Ripbro
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You nailed it, both.

xy9ine
+1 Jotegir

DW's kind of epitomize that era - heavy AND weak. i've got a set for a vintage cruiser build - chosen up for aesthetics only.

andy-eunson
+4 JVP ohio Timer bishopsmike

Taping rims is one of the shittiest jobs in my home shop. How many times has Stan’s tape refused to stick properly to carbon or aluminum rims. Or you need to wrap a couple times because the rim width is a little too wide for the tape. Or you have enough tape for 1.88 rims and have to run to the shop for another roll. Or the hole you made in the tape for the valve leaks after you’ve aired up because the tape won’t stick properly. Solid rims solve all that in a brilliant fashion. More than a couple decades ago I built myself a set of wheels using the Mavic UST rim. I still have for no particular reason all the rim inserts for the FORE drilled rim. Pretty fiddly and annoying to build but solid wheels albeit heavier than others but tires aired up perfectly. 

When Stan’s rims came out they were lighter and easier to build and the rim bed once taped (shudder) aired up quite well. But so many other drilled rims were allegedly tubeless ready along with tires that were also allegedly tubeless ready actually stunk. Part of that I think is that rims are wider now so there is more room for the tire beads to flop around and not provide that initial seal needed to air up.  We need to get back to the consistency of those original UST tires and rims.

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AJ_Barlas
+2 Andy Eunson t4lturner

I feel your pain. I’ve even been thinking of going back to ghetto tubeless. I swear it’s more reliable.

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Jotegir
+4 Andy Eunson Kos Spencer Nelson Lynx .

One of the reasons I really like Bontrager rims is their plastic rim tape insert thing. Slap that baby in and you've got one of the easiest tubeless jobs of your life. Like the Mavics here, it basically can't leak.

Too bad its nearly impossible to not destroy it on removal and they DO NOT play nice with certain insert/tire combos.

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andy-eunson
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I love those Bontrager rim strips. But as you say, some tires are absolutely impossible to get on, like the current Continental tires. I was compelled to remove that strip and use tape to mount those tires. My WeAreOne rims with good tape are nearly as good as the Bontrager strips.

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Jotegir
+1 Timer

Well, see, the nice part about the we are ones is that somebody else had to tape em at the factory. Hah!

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andy-eunson
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And taped again by me when a tire bead stuck to the tape and peeled it enough to need replacing. Twice.

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xy9ine
+3 Andy Eunson Mike Ferrentino Lynx .

oh man, that reminds me - waaay bitd (when 26" rim options were somewhat limited), inspired by bontrager, i cut down & pinned a (relatively) light road rim. brute forced it into (approximate) shape & managed to build it into reasonable roundness. the joint wasn't as tight as it could be, so braking was impacted, but was a fun project / proof of concept.

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kos
+2 Timer Pete Roggeman

What an astounding legacy brand. At least if you're of my "vintage".

Glad to see that Mavic appears to be back in the game!

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OLDF150
+2 Mike Ferrentino lewis collins

I had a pair of the Crossmax SX wheels.  The grey ones from many years ago. They where awesome in practice, and make tubeless so easy. My only reason for selling them was the 2 week turnaround if I needed parts like spokes.  Nobody stocked the parts.  Whereas, my old school wheels, built up tubeless, can repair with a quick stop any bike shop to buy readily available parts. I loved those Crossmax, and still pine for their look and function, until I remember the bespoke parts availability.  I hope Mavic comes back with a vengence, but am apprehensive due to parts availability.

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mikeferrentino
+1 Kerry Williams

Noted, for sure. As it sits right now, parts appear to be available. I have an email in asking for some reinforcement/reassurance about the parts situation. Will see what they say.

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Jackalope
+8 Mike Ferrentino Kos Andy Eunson BarryW Pete Roggeman Cam R Lynx . bushtrucker

Josh from Mavic here!

Mavic has opened a fully stocked Mavic Service Center in Waterbury Vermont. We have parts to support products for 5 years minimum after the last date of catalogue availability. This will expand to 7 years starting with the 2025 catalogue of product.

The new Infinity Hub which is found on Mavic wheels, use one spoke length per wheelset (front and rear). Keeping these parts in stock is vastly easier as a result of the single spoke length per wheelset for the service center, and dealers. Easier then as a rider to find what you're looking for.

Easiest way to access parts it through a local dealer, or the contact us link on the website. That gets funneled to the appropriate country service center and we get you rolling from there.

MTB product is also coming with spare spokes.

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craw
+1 Mike Ferrentino

I've got to admire their sticktoitiveness when it comes to system wheels and relatively narrow rims. They do what they do. 15' of engagement is a very Mavic choice. I have Mavic system wheels with hubs with that level of engagement on my gravel bike and they're just fine for that. Worth mentioning the absolute nightmare it was trying to get the appropriate axle/hub parts to make those wheels fit in my fork. Let alone spokes and freehubs. After all these years this set of wheels was my first Mavic system wheelset and it's everything I expected.

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vincentaedwards
+1 finbarr

I’m surprised to say I’ve never worked on or owned a Mavic wheel, but that rim bed looks dreamy. 

So, question from the uninitiated: do the spokes come with the threaded nipples already attached? 

How many different spoke lengths does this wheelset use, and how many spares do they provide?

Lastly, it’s nice to see ‘Star Ratchet technology’ showing up in more hubs now that the patent has expired… though I do like the 36 POE plus options better. Those new OneUp hubs are very appealing, for example.

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mikeferrentino
+3 Joshua Saxe Andy Eunson BarryW

Spoke lengths are the same front and rear, drive or non-drive side. Two spare spokes per wheel, nipples are included and pre-installed. The spokes themselves look to be pretty conventional steel straight pulls. There's a conical brass nut with a hex head that is threaded to flush with the end of the spoke, and probably held on tight with some kind of threadlocker. The spoke nipple sits on top of the brass cone and threads into the rim. Looks to me like you could easily swap in the correct length DT Aerolite if needed.

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Jackalope
+4 BarryW Pete Roggeman Lynx . bushtrucker

One spoke length per wheelset. Two spares with "XC and trail" Wheels, Three spares with Enduro/DH.

Stock is a 24t ratchet, can be upgraded to a 40t.

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mikeferrentino
+1 bushtrucker

Thanks for the heads up about the 40t ratchet, that's good to know

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ClydeRide
+1 Joshua Saxe

I have an awesome set of We Are One wheels and there should be no room for me to have any wheel envy, but those sexy smooth rim beds… whoa.

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two-one
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So I'm all for more variation and options in the bike component market, but those mavic id360 ratchets are the worst engagement system I've ever seen. 

I must have had 10 of them in my hands at some point or another, and all of them showed corrosion damage to the point of skipping, or breaking off the sharp edges of the ramps, lodging in the valleys.

If they would announce they redesigned them with a better kind of steel, i would cut them some slack, but right now they are on my sh*t-list

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Kenny
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24 spoke aluminum wheels? Does that not make anyone else nervous?

That said at 1790g, they're closer in weight to many of the typical mid range aluminum wheelsets with more spokes.

I wonder what the rim itself weighs? Maybe the rim itself has more material at points to compensate?

Being I can kill 28 spoke aluminum wheelsets almost on command, I'd imagine this wheelset's lifespan being measured in minutes, ridden hard on the shore.

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mikeferrentino
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Good point. Buuuut to counter that, I remember thinking that about the original Crossmax way back when, and those damn things were remarkably tough (in comparison to other XC-duty wheels of that era). 

I tried to dig around and find some rim weights, but no luck so far. I am imagining they are not the lightest. If the front wheel weighs 880g, and we subtract 200 grams for a hub, and 150g for spokes an nips, that'd leave us with 530 grams for a rim. Chonky. 30mm inner width, 22mm height, it could weigh that much...

Also, yeah, they are a bit twangy. For me, it's tolerable and I can appreciate the ride comfort, but I think anyone who really hammers their wheels would be better served spending more and going carbon, or going heavier.

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MTBrent
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French round things for the win.  Mavic and Michelin on every bike.  Pro sponsorship did it's job and got me hooked and I haven't looked back... Thanks, Sam Hill.

I've run multiple modern Mavic wheels and my current Crossmax XL wheels (non S version) have been flawless on both the FS and HT, both geared and singlespeed.  They're a good weight, seemingly tough, and the solid rim bed is magical.  They're also quite inexpensive from the German sites to boot.

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ShawMac
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I was maybe interested in the crossmax until I saw those stupid bladed spokes. My buddy had some Mavics on his last bike... broken spoke was 12 euros, plus about 40 euros shipping from France and he didn't get it for a month. 

But I would consider a pair of the limited edition yellow deemax rims to lace up myself if I had any idea where to even buy some.

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mikeferrentino
+2 Timer Joshua Saxe

I suspect the blades are necessary so you can hold the spoke when truing the wheel, but pretty much any straight pull spoke from any of the major brands should fit in there. The genuine article, with the little brass cone and the alloy nipple included, is available at Mavic's new US online parts store for about $4.50. All spokes are the same length, front and rear, side to side.

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ShawMac
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Good to see distribution on this side of the pond may be improving.

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bishopsmike
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I thought the issue with Mavic wheel systems had always been the unreliable hubs and difficult-to-source spokes? No mention of either?

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Jackalope
+1 bishopsmike

Hi Bishopsmike,

Josh from Mavic here in the US; we have opened a service center based in Waterbury, VT and house support parts for product for 5 years after it's last catalogue date. This increases to 7 years after starting with 2025 product. The older hubs required some vigilance in service. Our new hubs which run on an 1D360 Freehub are a ratchet mechanism instead of pawl driven. They are much more robust, but as with anything in cycling do require service intervals which vary based on use case.

Personally, I've had some great successes using the ID360 freehub platform from Mavic. It has been able to withstand the rigors of Vermont winter miles quite nicely.

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bishopsmike
+1 Joshua Saxe

That's great Josh, thanks for the reply. I know my own DeeMax's and many others were abandoned because of hub issues, but the rims were always great. I think Mike F could have added to the article by addressing Mavic's past and saying something like you added above.  Sounds promising, I would been keen to give them a try!

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mikeferrentino
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I didn't say anything about spoke failures, because the spokes on this wheelset are not the aluminum spokes of days past. These look like steel bladed straight pull spokes that are in use all over the place. Likewise, as Joshua mentioned, the freehub mechanism is a star ratchet now, not the pawls of bygone days.

Aaaand, it has been a very long time since I've ridden any of the old Mavic stuff. My personal experience from two decades ago was trouble free, and it feels speculative to speak of failures that others may have experienced between then and now on designs that are not applicable to the wheels in question. The best I can do at this point is ride the wheels and see how they go.

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Bainbridge
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I've had several sets of Mavic's and every one has problems keeping the rear hub bearing preload with the correct tension. Do they still have the same system which is just a nut on the non drive side of the axle? It just had an O ring on the inside which was supposed to stop it coming loose. 

Apart from that I highly rated the old Mavic Crossmax SX, light, strong, nice handling, easy tubeless. Nice to see then back in the game. 

Didn't DT do a tubeless run years ago, Tricon or something like that. It used inserts in the rim wall rather than screwed nipples.i remember it looking interesting.

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Jackalope
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Different hubs entirely.

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