Manitou Mattoc Pro We Are One Arrival NSMB Andrew Major (7)
FIRST IMPRESSIONS

Manitou Mattoc Pro - A Fork For "XC-Racing To Light-Enduro"

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Demi-Dorado Details

By weight, it's a beefier Manitou R7. A mega Magic Toothpick with proven XC-race chops as a 120mm fork for aggressive World Cup courses. By performance, with travel up to 150mm, it's a Mini-Mezzer with the top-end Dorado air system an MC2 damper with adjustable high & low-speed compression, rebound, and also a hydraulic bottom out system that controls the last 30mm of travel.

It's surprisingly stiff for how spindly the 34mm chassis looks relative to current big-bike single-crowns like Manitou's 37mm-stanchioned Mezzer or the 38mm RockShox Zeb Ultimate I've been riding. But then, the R7 is ultra-precise in a 120mm travel, 32mm chassis, which has me predicting a longer travel version in the future.

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The 130mm travel We Are One Arrival A130 shares the same Enduro-approved frame as the 170mm travel A170.

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At 140mm travel, the Mattoc pairs perfectly in terms of matching the stiffness of a system that includes the Convergence wheels.

The Mattoc 34 travel is easily adjustable from 110mm to 150mm and is available pre-set at both 120mm and 140mm of travel. I've been riding this fork at 140mm, and I'll also have a direct 120mm vs. 120mm travel comparison with the R7 Pro. For now, suffice to say that it's surprisingly rigid for a 140mm fork that weighs under 1800 grams*.

It's stiff enough that it slides sweetly & smoothly through its travel mounted on the front of my 62.5° HTA Marin El Roy under any loads, and it also goes positively un-noticed on the front of the We Are One Arrival A130 which shares a frame meant to storm Enduro courses with the beefiest single-crown forks bolted up front.

*I'll have the actual weight of this fork as part of my review.

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The Mattoc features Manitou's Infinite Rate Tune (IRT) system, which, allows me to tune mid-stroke support independently from bottom out.

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The MC2 damper features high and low-speed compression adjustment, and rebound adjustment, and it has a hydraulic bottom-out system.

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I run more pressure in the IRT chamber, but both on my hardtail and the A130 I'm running the recommended air pressure for my weight in the main chambers.

Credit the the Reverse Arch lowers and the Hex-Lock axle for the favourable comparison in precision to both the SR Suntour Durolux and Manitou Mezzer, when they're lowered to 140mm travel.

I don't think chassis stiffness is the be-all-end-all but it's nice to know it will pair well as a system with any frame in this travel category and that it will work smoothly with the slackest head tube angles (HTA), which is where more twiggy forks usually fall down performance-wise.

Compared to the Mezzer Pro, it cuts a couple of hundred grams but shares massive tire clearance, which I'll come back to in my review, as well as the same excellent air spring and damper, just scaled down.

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Manitou has long credited the Hexlock axle as part of their forks' excellent stiffness-to-weight ratios.

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No air shaft swap is necessary. The layout of Manitou's air system means travel adjust simply involves simply clipping on plastic chips.

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Stop including this soft plastic fender with the forks. It's awful. The Reverse Arch is already decent at deflective detritus, but a redesigned fender would be welcome.

IRT

Rather than using tokens in their air system, which affect how a fork's air spring ramps through its travel, the Mattoc features Manitou's Infinite Rate Tune (IRT) system, which, allows me to tune mid-stroke support independently from bottom-out. This means more support from the air spring when riding my steep local trails but I can still use the full travel from the fork.

On properly brutal hits, the MC2 damper's hydraulic bottom out system provides a significant boost in support through the last 30%. Coming off of Manitou's long travel (140-180mm) Mezzer Pro, none of this is a surprise.

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With Manitou's Dorado air spring, instead of an air shaft swap plastic spacers are used for travel adjustment.

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It's true that the Mattoc doesn't have the same presence as the full-on 37mm stanchioned Mezzer.

One note I like to include about the Dorado air system is that I always inflate my fork with my front wheel suspended, for example, with my bike in a stand or with a friend holding the bar. If I'm on my own in the woods I'll flip the bike upside down. This is because the positive and negative air chambers are filled together, rather than being self-balancing like most air forks, and when a pump is attached the fork can free-sag under the weight of my bike.

In addition to the performance benefits of Manitou's so-smooth air system, and the mid-stroke tuneability of IRT, another advantage here is that adjusting travel doesn't require an, increasingly expensive, air shaft swap, since the negative air chamber isn't self-balancing through a precisely placed transfer port (commonly called a dimple).

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I rode the stock air settings with the El Roy setup with dual 29" wheels, and then gradually increase the IRT air pressure for more mid-stroke support.

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With the mullet setup, I need the fork to ride higher both initially and at the mid-point. It's still surprisingly smooth off the top running less than 20% sag.

Teardown Promises

Now, for the airing of excuses. There is a pile of reasons this first impression piece doesn't include a teardown. For one, it's the best fork I've ridden out of the box, including both the Mezzer and R7; super smooth with zero break-in required, which can sometimes be a bit suspicious. Thus far it's still nice and tight so😄I simply wasn't motivated to take it apart.

I also wanted to leave the travel where it was until I had a chance to ride it at 140mm on the front of the Arrival A130. I had considered bumping it up to 150mm for both my El Roy and the Arrival 1270
, I'm going to first drop it to 120mm of travel and do a comparison with the R7 on the front of the Banshee Enigma. Always playing with something.

So yes, there will be a Mattoc Pro teardown in the future. In the meantime, it really is a mini-Mezzer so my teardown of that fork provides a solid inside-Manitou understanding.

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140mm Mattoc Pro, meet 170mm Zeb Ultimate. I'm juggling a lot of projects right now and I will have something in shortly about my Arrival A130 vs A170 experiences and fleet management.

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It's not something I'd do regularly. But the A170 owner signing up for BCBR, moving locations, or simply switching up ride groups will be happy with the short travel swap.

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I'm thrilled with how nicely the Mattoc Pro complements the A130 frame as a system. Speaking of compliments, it looks stellar on the front of the We Are One as well.

Marinster Truck Vs. Arrival 130 Vs. Enigma

When I concluded my R7 review by suggesting that a longer travel XC-weight fork was in order I had zero idea this chassis was in the works. I still think, with how well the Mattoc chassis works for me, that a longer travel R7, with 32mm stanchions, would be an excellent animal for lighter-weight riders. But, here we are.

I know this is a little more involved than my typical first-look piece, but with juggling a fair few projects I have a lot more hours on the Mattoc Pro than I typically would, and I'm also at a point of intimate familiarity with the general characteristics of Manitou's suspension such that surprise-free setup is my expectation.

To recap: I'll have a teardown, a 120mm Vs 120mm comparison with the R7, and experiences riding the Mattoc Pro with, at least, my El Roy, the We Are One Arrival A130, and the Banshee Enigma when I follow up.

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Damn, that's a great-looking trail bike.

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Damn, that's a great-looking trail bike.

It's refreshing that in a time where 'more beef' seems to be the constant refrain with fork design, Manitou is doing its own thing with a fork that fills a lot of roles. It's a more precise 120mm XC-race fork for today's courses and the full suspension machines that racers are using. It's also a 140mm trail fork, or 150mm 'light-enduro' fork that manages to smartly deliver a solid chassis without packing a ton of weight.

Manitou's marketing copy is filled with bold proclamations like "the lightest, stiffest, and most tunable fork over more segments than any of its competitors." Either way, between the chassis, air system, and damper, it's clear that the Mattoc Pro will make an excellent suspension fork choice for a wide range of riders over a wide range of applications. More on that, and a teardown, in my follow-up review.

For now, check out Manitou for more information on the 1050 USD Mattoc Pro, and its less expensive siblings.

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bushtrucker
+6 Andrew Major fartymarty 93EXCivic Vik Banerjee Velocipedestrian BadNudes

All that and not a single mention of the polished crown!

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AndrewMajor
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Have to save something other than travel adjust for the finale?!

I think it looks awesome, but apparently some folks would just prefer the Pro came with a black crown? Either way, I figure the aesthetics speak for themselves.

With the Mattoc, the Expert-level product does have the hollow forged crown and 7000-Series aluminum legs. The Comp has the heavier CSU, with 6000-Series stanchions.

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AndrewMajor
0 Jonthehuman Suns_PSD

And it was only a ~5 minute read! I’ve been trying (trying) to keep my submissions closer to five minutes than ten these days.

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flattire2
+4 Andrew Major Vincent Edwards Velocipedestrian Peter Appleton

I own a mezzer.  I applaud manitou for making their crowns just a tad bit taller than fox or RS.  It adds 5mm or so to the axle to crown length, but goes a long way to reducing crown-to-steertube creak.

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AndrewMajor
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Yes, both the stanchion-crown and steerer-crown interfaces have significant overlap on Manitou’s forks. Even with the R7 this is the case. 

I will say that most every brand deserves credit for working at resolving creaking CSUs. It’s much less prevalent then even a few years ago.

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JVP
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CSUs are not horrible any more, just bad. It’s almost worse now since they might just last slightly past warranty.

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AndrewMajor
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I know folks who were serial creakers who genuinely seem to be going great on the newer Fox 38/36 and RockShox 38/35.

I don’t think Manitou has had a creaking issue. At least I haven’t come across it with Mezzer, Mattoc (previous gen/pretty low hours on this one), or the R7 and I don’t have a great history. I also some other folks happy on Manitou forks who’ve had plenty of CSU issues with other options in the past too. 

QC/QA sure, but it’s also down to that significant crown overlap at the stanchions and steerer.

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06hokieMTB
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I’ve had creaky CSU’s on two of the three Mezzers that I’ve owned. Still love the fork.

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AndrewMajor
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Interesting! Do you know if it was the stanchion or steerer interface?

Just out of interest, are you doing more steep hard on the brakes riding or more fast/huge DH or some mix? 

Cheers,

Ride.DMC
+3 Andrew Major BadNudes bushtrucker

The nice polished crown on the fork would look sweet with a polished rocker link on the Arrival.

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AndrewMajor
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Polished links on the Arrival would look so great - especially the raw/black Arrival.

I will pass that on!

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velocipedestrian
+3 Andrew Major Skooks Blofeld

XC to Light Enduro. The labels and pigeonholes are getting pretty funny. I liked All Mountain - vague enough and not a race format, and it sounded like what we used to do with these toys before the endless splintering of catagories. 

Somehow in the (ironic?) adoption of Downcountry, All Mountain became uncool. Just like me, I guess.

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AndrewMajor
+3 Karl Fitzpatrick Velocipedestrian BadNudes

I love the term ‘mountain biking’ and the equally ambiguous ‘All Mountain’ or ‘Trail’ categories.

In this case, the fact the fork has been raced at WC XC events but also has a wicked damper with adjustable HSC/LSC and an HBO system and the Dorado air system and a stiff enough chassis for any 140mm application sort of begged for the differentiation in the title? 

But yeah, for me it’s a perfect All Mountain fork. More on that coming up soon when I discuss how it performs back to back against a 170mm Zeb Ultimate. Hahahaha.

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vincentaedwards
+2 Andrew Major Velocipedestrian

The Mattoc looks interesting! 

I'm excited to hear more about how it compares on value / performance against the 'big two' Fox 34 and Pike. I like the weight, tuning options, and travel adjustment w/out changing the air spring. 

I have at least one bike where this fork could be a great fit.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Vincent Edwards

Certainly I’ll have more comparisons where I can in the review. 

Cheers!

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TheLineSeeker
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Very interested in a longer term review with comparison. I am considering this for for my new build aimed at trail riding to light enduro.

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just6979
+2 Mammal Suns_PSD

"Credit the the Reverse Arch lowers and the Hex-Lock axle for the favourable comparison in precision to both the SR Suntour Durolux and Manitou Mezzer"

That's confusing. I understand that you're probably comparing the chassis with consideration for the size and weight, but the Mezzer has RA and HL as well, so they can't really be the differentiator here.

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AndrewMajor
+1 BadNudes

Those are two much beefier forks that I’ve run lowered to the same travel the Mattoc is being run at. I’m simply noting it compares favourably to those platforms lowered. As you note.

Fleshed out more, I’d credit the axle system and Reverse Arch Vs. other platforms I’ve ridden at 140mm that were noticeably less precise.

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velocipedestrian
+2 BadNudes Andrew Major

It's the New Mattocs... Newmatics! Pneumatics?

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AndrewMajor
+1 Velocipedestrian

#DadJokesForDays

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velocipedestrian
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It's the only kind I'm licenced to tell.

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Kenny
+1 Andrew Major

Pretty cool and seems an awesome hardtail fork, especially. 

I have my relatively ancient DVO diamond set @130mm on my enigma. Changing that fork from 160mm to 130mm changes the perceived stiffness from "marginal" to "Whoa, pretty burly". 

I'm no weight weenie, but I've definitely had the thought that at 130mm, a pike/fox 34/etc would have no negative impact on performance, and I'd save almost a whole pound off the front end. I haven't weighed it, but the enigma definitely feels like it but up pretty light for a bike that can ride whatever trail strikes my fancy, so if I can continue that theme without getting too exotic, might as well.

The stanchion anodising on my old diamond is getting see-through.  When I put it out to pasture, this fork will go on the short list for replacements, especially since I am really enjoying the somewhat similar air spring setup in the MK2 Helm on my dually.

Still keen to hear the results with this fork on the enigma. I think you mentioned planning for 120mm but I really recommend you try it at 130mm as well given your distaste for steep STAs and love of slack head angles. It doesn't make the bike feel too tall or too slack at all, IMO.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Vik Banerjee

I ran lowered longer travel forks for years and years going back to my 130mm Magura Wotan but the current crop of more-XC forks doesn’t give up anything - or at least work in a stiffness system with the frames/wheels. Actually have to reiterate I’m quite impressed with how well the A130 came together given the Mattoc is a 34mm fork with XC race chops and the A130 shared a frame with the A170.

Engima at 130mm makes perfect t sense assuming regular sized rubber. I’m going to take advantage of the Mattoc’s massive tire clearance to keep running a 29+ tire up front. 

It’s not quite my next project but it’ll show up mid-August. I’m riding the Enigma rigid for multiple days at Cumberlandworx this year.

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06hokieMTB
+1 Andrew Major

I've got a Mezzer Pro 29 @ 160 on the big bike and it is excellent. Slots in perfectly between a Lyrik and a Zeb on stiffness (or a 36/38) and is surprisingly light (something like 30-40g heavier than a Lyrik).

Currently running a (lowered) 29er Lyrik RC2 at 140 on the little bike and wondering if it is a touch overkill at this travel. When building the bike, I was afraid that a 140 Fox 34 or Pike wouldn't quite have the same stiffness/beef that I wanted (a big damn fork can be quite the confidence boost in chunky stuff).

Is the Mattoc Pro same compromise in stiffness/beef/brawn/weight? At 130mm, this Mattoc Pro seems like a no brainer. At 140...?

It's easier to understand how the Mezzer, with 37mm stanchions, slots so perfectly between a Lyrik/36 and a Zeb/38. I know outer diameter isn't everything - but I had pretty much written off 34mm stanchions for 140mm 29er forks.

Sidebar: I wonder if the smoothness you mention is a by-product of the 34mm chassis? Less surface area to cause friction than a 37mm Mezzer or 38mm Zeb. (Kinda like how the F38 uses a 34mm air piston?)

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AndrewMajor
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Re. Smoothness. There are so many factors, but the Mattoc is smoother out of the box than the R7 was (32mm stanchions) so I don’t know if I’d put much down to stanchion size. Stiffness yes, all my bikes are fairly slack which can put more stress on the stanchion-bushing interface (binding/friction).

I’d guess compared to the R7 the MC2 damper is playing a role, but assembly can be everything with forks as well. 

As someone who historically lowered all sorts of forks - including running a couple SR Durolux forks at 120mm, Helm at 100 & 120mm, etc, I believe anyone looking for a 140mm travel fork would be very happy adding the Mattoc to their stiffness-system. I’m a buck eighty five or so, so it’s possible some properly big folks would notice an improvement in ride quality from a lowered-to-140mm Mezzer. It’s certainly a great fork. But I imagine most riders larger than me would be stoked on the stiffness of the Mattoc.

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06hokieMTB
+1 Andrew Major

Thanks for your response. My original plan was to lower my Mezzer to 140, but that definitely seems overkill for a Ripley AF (built to the burly side of the trail spectrum)

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AndrewMajor
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Cheers!

I avoid spending other folk’s money like the plague. But having ridden both, the only reason I’d go 140mm Mezzer is if I thought I may want to run it with much more travel in the future.

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Suns_PSD
+1 Andrew Major

The R7 becomes dramatically more supple if you just reduce the white delrin negative volume spacer's overall size. This matters even more running it as a 120mm as at that point, the negative chamber is just too small. With this mod, my R7 really impresses me on my Spur.

I have the Mezzer Pro (love it) on my Relay and also have the new Mattoc Pro waiting on the shelf for my new Smuggler frame to arrive. The Smuggler build is too replace the Spur.

Wish I could get the new Mara Pro shock that's been shown online lately as the current product has some shortcomings with the fixed negative volume.

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AndrewMajor
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That’s interesting! How much smaller are you making the spacer? 

Post up when you have some time on the Mattoc. Curious to hear how it compares to Mezzer/R7 for you.

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Suns_PSD
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Suns_PSD
+3 Andrew Major The_Setlaz BadNudes

Not certain how to post a photo. However there is another forum that has a very informative thread on the R7 with instructions on how to reduce the negative chamber spacer and increase volume, increase travel slightly, and also do a revalve.

I've only done the negative chamber mod and the difference was huge.

If you know how to remove the spacer all that you need to know is to keep the overall height, but you can remove significant material beyond that.

I will try and PM you a photo.

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AndrewMajor
+1 BadNudes

Thanks!

If you have a forum link that would be awesome & appreciated. Zero stress linking to an other site around here. My R7 is running rad right now, but next service I’d be keen to try the mod.

Suns_PSD
+2 Velocipedestrian Andrew Major

https://www.mtbr.com/threads/2020-manitou-r7-pro-owners-thread.1142851/page-30#post-16003773

It's all here and there is some great stuff with nearly perfect directions and photos provided.

* Appreciate the open position towards gaining knowledge and info.

AndrewMajor
+1 Suns_PSD

@Suns_PSD

Very interesting how, as you noted, the spacers are the same height but massively relieved. I won't be able to pull off anything that pretty but I'd definitely be interested in trying less negative volume. Thanks for the link!

bigbrett
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Unrelated: thoughts on swapping spur for smuggler?

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Suns_PSD
+1 Velocipedestrian

If this was directed at me, I can't say as I don't have the Smuggler frame just yet!

I currently have the Spur and until last month an SJEvo which was a killer 2 bike combo. However, I replaced the SJEvo with a Relay, which is a mid-power e-bike. 

The Relay is cool for really steep days (no other trail users & often 1 way trails) or park days, but I still needed a sub 30# fast rolling trail bike that could cover a lot of varying terrain. The Spur, for me, just doesn't have the breath of usefulness that I needed as my only 'meat powered' trail bike as I find it pretty sketchy at times. The Smuggler is just enough bike that I think I can take it anywhere, without being bored on the XC stuff or terrified on the AM stuff.

We'll see if my theory plays out.

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ChazzMichaelMichaels
+1 Andrew Major

I've been hanging out for this fork for awhile. I've had a Mattoc Pro on my old Enduro for a long time. 

I'd been putting off replacing the 36 on my Stumpy as the new Mattoc was rumoured. Problem is the new Mattoc only comes in 160mm in the Comp (150mm max for the Expert and Pro). With a 160mm brake post mount? In reality it means I'll probably get the Mezzer though I've been told a few times it is probably a bit much fork (to replace a 160mm 36), but I'd rather a fork with the option of more travel. The new Mattoc was so close :(

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AndrewMajor
+1 Suns_PSD

I think generally once you’re into a 160mm fork/bike, and maybe even a 150mm fork unless you’re a light rider, a lowered Mezzer makes a lot of sense. It’s not that heavy a fork. It’s ready for anything. I ride it at 160mm and 170mm.

But certainly there are bikes like a Stumpy where the Mattoc Pro could anchor a proper lightweight build.

In that case, I’d absolutely get a Mattoc and run it at 150mm. On my Rifty meant for a 130-140mm fork I spent months railing a 120mm R7. Just add a bit more IRT pressure so the fork stays higher in its travel. It was rad.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Suns_PSD

So fun.

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ChazzMichaelMichaels
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Edit, I should have mentioned it's a Stumpy Evo. So a 150mm fork would be underforking which isn't ideal for me. In theory there's probably nothing wrong with a 150/150mm bike but I've never actually done that before. The nice thing about the Evo is that it's quite a pedalable hard hitting bike (though my alloy Comp is pretty hefty). 

I think I'll end up with the Mezzer if they redo a silver one!

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AndrewMajor
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Ah! Yeah, Stumpy Evo if anything I think I'd want to bump it up an extra centimeter of travel, so the Mezzer is a great choice that way. 

Cheers!

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Suns_PSD
+1 Andrew Major

I don't think this is the correct fork for the capability of that bike.

In addition to it throwing your geo off. Stick with the Mezzer, which by the way is at a crazy good sales price right now.

My wife rides a 150 trail bike but weighs 112#s and doesn't ride that aggressively, I'll probably put her on the Mattoc (for example) to replace her Fox 34.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Velocipedestrian

My pedantic nature wants to point out that there are a number of options for extended headset cups or crown races for folks wanting to maintain a certain geometry. My favourite is, of course, sticking a 29+ tire up front, hahahaha. I do think in the name of science it would be fun to try a Mattoc 150mm on the front of the Stumpy Evo.

But, I 100% agree the Mezzer is the better option for someone buying a fork for that bike. It gives you the option to easily over-fork an extra centimeter without buying any parts and the performance is excellent. 

.......

This is an aside, I pulled it out of this piece and may do another hit in the future, I would still like to see Manitou do a longer travel R7 and a longer travel Mattoc that are rider-weight and application limited. I think about how impressively stiff the R7 chassis and Mattoc chassis are for me at around a buck-eighty-five and there are a significant number of lighter riders who could benefit from the reduction in stiffness and minimal weight gain of doing longer travel versions of these platforms. 

I know the challenge is how you keep some massive dude from mounting the 150mm R7 or 170mm Mattoc 34 on the front of his BroPed, but for a lighter rider I imagine how rad said Mattoc would function for them without the extra weight of a 38 or Zeb or Mezzer.

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bobbybadluck
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How does this compare to the Fox 34 as far as stiffness?  I don't need something incredibly stiff but don't want the extra weight of the Fox 36.

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AndrewMajor
+2 Suns_PSD Peter Appleton

The only 34 I have real hours on recently was on the front of the Santa Cruz Chameleon and it was a very basic version (cheap fork seals, etc) so not a true comparison since other performance factors (like stiction) can make forks feel less precise. 

That said, I doubt anyone who cares would ride both and not take the Mattoc as the more precise chassis. The 34 is a totally fine fork, but a lot of riders who are Fox-forever upgrade to the 36.

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lamar454
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have to second that opinion, it is very adjustable, give a tremendous amount of confidence inspiring stiffness and is simply smoother, especially in small bump comparison

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lamar454
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The mattoc was never really intended as a 160mm fork, the Comp version was just a "loss leader" to put it into that category of young rider with a lower budget.  the 150mm travel expert and pro were always the intended category

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Maxcycles
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Bumping an older post here, but @Andrew Major - I’m really debating between a Mattoc or Mezzer, either would be run at 140 or 150mm travel, mostly on a mid power/mid travel EMTB. 210 pound rider - lots of time spent lapping jump lines as well as trail riding. Would also maybe find its way onto my Banshee Enigma in Mullet form but really purchasing for the ebike. I feel like I’d almost be crazy for not going Mezzer at my weight, on an emtb, with my riding style, but the Mattoc has me intrigued.

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AndrewMajor
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@Maxcycles, I don’t ride e-MTBs but I’ve wrenched on a fair few of them. I know Manitou says Mattoc chassis is e-rated but I’d absolutely trust your instincts here and go Mezzer.

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Maxcycles
+1 Andrew Major

You helped seal the deal for me on that, thanks!

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AndrewMajor
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Welcome! Enjoy your new fork.

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snowsnake
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Hey Andrew,

The Mattoc Pro is top of the list for my upcoming REEB SST, chiefly for its weight and ostensible ease of switching between 140 and 150 travel, but also its undeniably classy look. 

That being the case, how quick/easy is the travel adjust? I’d love to be able to bump up the front travel to match with coil on occasion, but if it’s much more than a 15 minute task I don’t know that I’d bother. 

Additionally, I’d say that “xc to light enduro” describes my riding just about perfectly, and I’m 175 pounds at fighting weight, probably closer to 185-190 now. Do you think it would be suitable or too flexy, given that?

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