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Review

Introducing the Rockshox Reverb AXS 2.0

Photos Deniz Merdano (unless noted)
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I have spent some time on AXS Reverb dropper posts, since they were released in 2019, but not much; because I'm a picky long-legged mofo. When droppers first came out, 125mm of drop seemed ample, but every time a longer post was released, and I was sure I didn't need it, I was wrong. I followed the arms race almost until its current zenith. I can deal with 200mm now and my sweet spot is probably 225 but I'm pretty happy on 240 as well. 250 is clearly (finally) too much. Before this, the max drop you could get on a Reverb AXS was 170, and I ride like crap on steep terrain without more drop than that.

I was jealous though, every time something went wrong and I had to run housing or, in the case of the non-AXS Reverb, a hose through the downtube and up the seat tube and then attach the whole thing. Headlamps were sometimes employed. The killer app of the Reverb AXS, with its wireless activation, remains installation; 5 minutes max with only a multi-tool. In fact, it's entirely possible to have one post for two bikes because the swap is so fast, particularly if you have two actuators.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

The 225mm Reverb AXS 2.0 I have been testing (right) vs the original 170mm Reverb AXS.

The other bonus about the Reverb AXS is reliability. If you are on top of your battery charging, which isn't hard, it works every time assuming the internals are in good order, which remains to be seen. Cable actuated droppers work great as long as you keep your cable and housing in good shape, and you don't mess with your saddle height (along with the same proviso about internals) but everyone has issues every once in a while. Things get sticky or your cable tension is off or the routing isn't great and all of a sudden your post won't stay up, or maybe down, or it won't actuate. These issues can almost always be solved on the trail, but with an AXS Reverb post, they do not exist because they are related to cable tension and routing.

Some riders prefer a little preventive maintenance over battery vigilance and some would rather have the batteries without the other headaches. Beyond those individual preferences,the issue to determine for yourself is bank, which we'll get to below.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

The Rockshox Reverb AXS 2.0 mounted to my We Are One Arrival 170 (mullet). I can't insert the 225mm post far enough to use all the drop but I can probably get 210 or 215, so I just raise it and stop it where I want it.* This is actually NBD for the riding around here. It's not the post's fault though. Its modest insertion depth is impressive proportionally compared to OneUp's industry leading post. I measured the OneUp 240's best in class insertion as 361mm. The Reverb 225 is exactly 15mm shorter, with 15mm less drop, at 346.

*Unlike the OneUp V3 and some others, drop is not adjustably on the new Reverb AXS

rockshox reverb axs 2 spare parts

Spare parts availability looks excellent and hints at simple internals.

Rockshox Reverb AXS 2.0 Highlights

  • Wireless activation eliminates cables for ease of installation/removal
  • Price reduced by 90 USD
  • Air over air internals increase simplicity and should reduce maintenance
  • Active ride allows for some damped movement when the post is between the top and bottom of its drop
  • New AXS button form and location makes actuation without a remote simple, even from the saddle
  • Front facing battery placement improves clearance (but increases stack)
  • DIAMETERS: 30.9mm, 31.6mm, 34.9mm
  • Compatible with all saddle rail types (7x7, 7x9 and 7x10)
  • Available from 100mm to 250mm drops in 25mm increments
  • Front facing battery placement improves clearance
  • MSRP 550 USD, 600 EUR*, 535 GBP*, 945 AUD*, 800 CAD including battery and charger but no actuator

*Includes VAT*

rockshox reverb 2 cutaway

This is image, from the press release, is the best mockup I have of the internals.

The best Internal Routing is No Routing

SRAM is doing a great job of helping well-heeled mountain bikers remove two of the three housings running through their frames, but they also hastened the arrival of tubes in tubes.

Before the hydraulically actuated Stealth Reverb was released in 2011, internally routed cables/lines in mountain bike frames were virtually unheard of. It was a great place to start though, because having a line running up to the seat cluster on the side of your mountain bike wasn't ideal. Having it run to the top of your post, near your saddle clamp, like the original Reverb, was much worse because it all moved every time you put your saddle up or down.

There were other factors that pushed us toward internal routing as well, like the arrival of carbon and improved aluminum manufacturing, but the Reverb Stealth gets equal parts credit and blame as well.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

Air pressure remains adjustable in the new Reverb AXS, but SRAM doesn't recommend you mess with it unless you find the return spring too eager or you are so light it's hard to push it down with your body weight. It comes at 600 psi from the factory but you can go as low as 400, if you have a shock pump that goes to 600 psi that is.

Air Over Air and ActiveRide

There are no hydraulics in this version of the Reverb, which instead uses a system of positive and negative air chambers. When the post is at the top, the negative spring is disengaged and it feels solid. When you are anywhere in between top and bottom, ActiveRide is engaged. This puts the negative spring back into play, providing some well-damped give. It doesn't move much, or easily, but it can be felt. I haven't yet decided if this is something I find beneficial because I don't notice it during rides unless I'm actively trying to, nor do I notice its absence when I'm riding another post.

The main application of this technology seems to be climbing on an eMTB. When it's very steep and/or very technical, lowering your saddle can help you clean nasty sections on an eMTB, as long as you are nice and stable. This is where ActiveRide is supposed to come into play. As SRAM puts it, "A traditional post can keep you bouncing, but ActiveRide keeps you grounded and in control, boosting climbing efficiency on an E-MTB while subtly smoothing out the ride." I haven't yet ridden the post on an eeb but I may notice some benefits to ActiveRide when I do.

reverb axs actuators

Your options are the Pod shifter with the rocker (left above but right alignment shown) or the Reverb AXS single lever actuator. Also capable but not shown are the two button Pod shifter version or the original AXS controller. Or you can just use the AXS button, which is easily accessible by reaching down.

The Actuator/Controller

There are three ways to make your dropper go up and down. If you want to do it from the saddle you can choose an AXS Pod Rocker Controller (150 USD) or the Rockshox AXS Controller (80 USD). The Pod makes sense if you are going to modify what the controls do, assuming you are also running an AXS drivetrain. Some riders use one thumb for upshifts and the other for downshifts, leaving two controls available for the dropper, meaning you could have it available for both thumbs. Because I swap bikes so often for testing, I keep it simple and I have both left side pod buttons set to actuate the post. I have the two button pod but I'd prefer the rocker. As it stands I don't consistently use one button over the other so maybe the single button AXS controller would be better for me.

The third method you can use is the AXS button on the post itself, in the event the battery on your actuator expires, or you are a minimalist.* Unlike the previous post, this button is a well-positioned and a reasonable size, facing up on the battery housing in the front of the post so this is quite feasible.

*These are CR2032 coin cells though so they are easy to bring along, and they last a surprisingly long time.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

The AXS button on the new post (to the right of the light in this photo) is very useful, much larger than previous versions and easily deployed with gloves on. Using this if you have a problem with your actuator would be easy, even from the saddle.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

OneUp's 240mm V3 Dropper (above) and the Reverb AXS V3 below. They are quite close in their dimensions and proportional to the 15mm difference in drop.

Compared to a OneUp V3 240mm

Obviously comparing a post with 240mm of drop with one that drops 225 isn't a fair fight, but putting the Reverb AXS 2.0 up against the OneUp V3 makes some sense because the latter is a well-priced, market leader by many metrics. Beyond that, there isn't an apples to apples big-drop comparison available because OneUp has 180, 210 and 240 While Rockshox has 175, 200, 225 and 250mm drops. The OneUp is the clear winner in terms of stack. because of the battery placement on the Reverb.

Weight

Reverb AXS 739g
OneUp v3 240 586g

Full insertion depth

Reverb AXS 346mm
OneUp v3 240 361mm

Overall length

Reverb AXS 596mm*
OneUp v3 240 611mm*

Measured to the top of the bottom clamp, where the saddle rail rests, for consistency.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

I didn't have a single issue while using the Reverb AXS 2.0 during the test period.

On the Dirt

Based on my few weeks with the Reverb AXS 2.0, my three word review would be, it just works. It feels consistent every time. You never have to push the button further than you expect, and it rises at a very consistent rate, which is quite quick. For me, the immediacy of the actuation, with a simple tap rather than several millimetres of cable pull, makes a significant difference. In situations where you need to get your saddle down in a hurry, and get your hand back in position to save your ass, milliseconds count. The positivity and consistency is confidence inspiring as well. A cable can change dramatically over the course of a ride, while the wireless connection never seems to vary at all.

The unit comes pressurized to 600 psi. Rockshox recommends you keep that pressure but some riders might prefer less because it will come back more slowly and require less weight to push it back into the lower. You can go as low as 400 psi but for my weight and use the stock pressure seems just fine.

ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

225mm drop (or whatever the equivalent would be for your bodily dimensions) is great for dropping into steep terrain, for jumping or riding technical descents. This is even more true now that mullets are more prevalent because I never buzz my ass on the tire now.

Cash Money

Here in Canada, you would have spent between 900 and 1065* Canuck bucks for the outgoing Reverb AXS, or 640 USD without an actuator. The new Fox Transfer Neo is 1050 CAD/860 USD with actuator. Here's some good news. The new Reverb AXS is 550 USD/800 CAD without an actuator but with a battery and charger.

  • These prices should go down as of today and the higher price was with an actuator, although it wasn't entirely clear which one, and an AXS battery, coin cell and charger is always included.
ROCKSHOX Reverb AXS 2.0

I will likely have more to say about the Reverb AXS 2.0 after I put some more miles on it, and try it on other bikes.

My Verdict Thus Far and The Way Forward

This is a great seatpost in many ways, but particularly in terms of consistency and ease of installation. I really enjoy having it on my bike because it performs so well. Is it worth paying more than twice as much, or does it make more sense to put that money into better suspension, brakes or wheels? If it's an either/or proposition, I'm spending my money on performance rather than convenience. If you swap bikes a lot for whatever reason, and you require a particular length of drop that may not come on a stock bike, or you appreciate technology and ease of use, this might be perfect for you.

Back to the two-bike proposition. One way to get value out of a product like this, assuming it has good longevity and consistency, is to move it from bike to bike, which is easier than it sounds.

I had already begun using a simple strategy from SRAM's Chris Mandell before this; I only order posts in 30.9 and keep shims on hand to fit 31.6 and 34.9 frames. This works perfectly and often saves a significant amount of weight. Most droppers have internals of the same diameter and to make the posts fit different frames, they simply increase the wall thickness, making the posts much heavier.

So, if you have two bikes, which doesn't seem unlikely if you are spending this much on a dropper, the value starts to improve. Ideally you'll have two actuators, both programmed to the post, and the appropriate shims in each frame so the seat tube diameters don't even need to match. This is 800 CAD or 550 USD in savings plus the cost of a saddle, but minus the cost of one or two shims and an extra controller, but now you are getting close to the cost of two top end conventional droppers with levers. Unless you are able to ride two of your bikes at once (or you loan one to a relative or deadbeat buddy often), this is a very simple proposition.

Aside from the aesthetics, and the price (although it's 90 USD cheaper than previously), there is nothing I don't like about the new Reverb AXS.

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cam@nsmb.com
Cam McRae

Height - 6'/183cm (mostly legs)

Weight - 165lbs/75kg

Inseam - 37"/94cm. (turns out I hadn't measured correctly previously)

Ape Index - 0.986

Age - 58

Trail I've been stoked on lately - Sam's Dad's Trail

Bar Width - 760mm

Preferred Reach - 485-500mm

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Couch_Surfer
+10 Mark Cr4w Bogdan M Morgan Heater SixZeroSixOne werewolflotion Timer bushtrucker Zero-cool Konda

For future gear reviews, it might be helpful to let the American readers know what country this was manufactured in and how much that's impacting MSRP.

So if I'm guessing that this was made in Taiwan (WAG) and was MSRP 550 USD.... that's probably gonna get hit with a 170USD charge and make it 720USD in the bike shop.

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cam@nsmb.com
+4 werewolflotion bushtrucker dhr999 ohio

That sucks but it’s an excellent point. The tricky thing will be applying that to all of the countries in our audience. Actually there are several tricky elements here. I have no idea what price the tariffs will apply to. Retail? Wholesale? Or would the MSRP change  so that the US price goes up?

Once the dust settles that will certainly be important and this is something we’re going to have to dig into more.

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Couch_Surfer
+2 werewolflotion bushtrucker Zero-cool ohio James Hayes DBone57

I don't know if you need to break it down for everyone, but for sure your American readership should understand the impacts.  They're the ones causing it after all.

Maybe just ask the manufacturer the follow up when doing these pieces.  

1: What country was this produced in (then check chart)?

2: Is MSRP pre-tarriff and should we expect actual retail to include the tarriff cost?

And agreed.  It does suck.

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Couch_Surfer
+4 bushtrucker Wharfrat94 Zero-cool ohio

Who knows, maybe there will be some fun arbitrage in this.  Yanks can get a 720$USD Dropper post, but Canucks who aren't trying to fuck over Taiwan get an 800$CAD dropper, even though the exchange rate is at 1.4.

I doubt it'll shake out that way, but sure would be funny if it does.

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Wharfrat94
+1 Thermal

Tariffs will be applied upon import- so SRAM will be the one paying for the actual tariff. No doubt these costs will be passed on to the consumer but depending on the company and product, who knows when.

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cooperquinn
+8 Squint TristanC Cam McRae Niels van Kampenhout Timer bushtrucker Adrian White ohio

Country of origin isn't an unreasonable request most of the time , but trying to guesstimate tariffs on each item is impossible , given those change in every slight breeze these days. 

It's also hard because it's unknowable whether or not manufacturers already have  products warehoused in other countries, etc., and how they will price in tariffs and changes going forward.

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Couch_Surfer
-9 taprider Mark Zero-cool TristanC Shinook sverdrup PeteCO bushtrucker Nick Meulemans Muesliman leon-forfar Mtbikesince87 Adrian White jmvdigital Utasidian

Are you guys journalists or not?

Do you need to boil the ocean on this, or can you simply say - the expected tarriff is expected to add " N hundred " dollars to the landed cost of " X frame or part " as its manufactured in " Y country "

I get you don't want the site to be overly political, but it's 2 minute google search to figure this out and it's a pretty big impact to the end consumers.  Here's the list as of today:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-reciprocal-tariffs-liberation-day-list/

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davetolnai
+18 Pepe Cr4w TristanC Shinook sverdrup Niels van Kampenhout Pete Roggeman ackshunW Cam McRae PeteCO bushtrucker Nick Meulemans FinnB1997 Muesliman leon-forfar Adrian White jmvdigital Dogboy

What a world. Complaints that a review of a bike part doesn’t have a full analysis of the insanely complicated tariffs announced yesterday.

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syncro
+4 Couch_Surfer mnihiser Andy Eunson Zero-cool

My take is that this has more to do with pushing back in any way we can to highlight how absurd the current iteration of the US government is. As a fair number of US citizens visit this site it's worth reminding them how their government is making their lives difficult with ineffective policies.

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cooperquinn
+3 TomM bushtrucker Zero-cool

its more or less impossible to actually know what the impact on msrp will be. and it could easily change this afternoon. or tomorrow. or next week. 

provided msrp is the only thing that makes sense here.

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 Cooper Quinn Hardlylikely Couch_Surfer

Are you realistically holding us - or any other site you're reading in any industry - to this ridiculous standard?

This guy's tariff policies change faster than whiplash. Trying to get it right just means it's guaranteed to be outdated by next day. Would you like us to integrate an api that calculates it in real time, because even that will be impossible.

We report on the MSRPs we're given by the manufacturer. As has been mentioned, those are hopefully accurate as of now because these products are already in warehouses. If it changes in a month, it'll be something you'll see reflected at point of purchase.

Or we could just spend all day tallying MSRPs for you, but then no more reviews, no more stories, no more editorial. I think I know what you'll choose when you take a minute to think about it.

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sverdrup
+14 Cam McRae Couch_Surfer Cooper Quinn Pete Roggeman mnihiser werewolflotion ackshunW bushtrucker Nick Meulemans leon-forfar Andy Eunson Adrian White Zero-cool jmvdigital ohio DBone57

American here. Don’t waste your time doing the math for us. We’re already entitled enough. 

Also, sorry for our technical difficulties as a democracy.  Many (most?) of us are feeling like this is all a catastrophic mistake that we tried to keep from happening.

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pete@nsmb.com
+4 werewolflotion Timer bushtrucker ohio

This Canadian can confirm there are no tariffs on apologies, no matter which way they travel.

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werewolflotion
+5 ackshunW bushtrucker Andy Eunson jmvdigital ohio Cam McRae DBone57

Sadly I'm here to second the apology and "catastrophic mistake." Sorry everyone, very ashamed of many things our country is doing/has done. Haven't lost faith yet (we're resilient, if crazy), but self-respect is long gone.

I've been mountain biking more than I usually do, and (surprise surprise) it's been a huge help. Also, I've always considered Canadians friends by default and I feel like everyone I've ever met feels the same way. I very very strongly feel these actions against you do not represent how the vast majority of my fellow Americans view Canada/Canadians.

I've been dreaming of a mountain bike brigade that rigs up our sleds for battle and saves democracy, who's with me?

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syncro
+4 Sandy James Oates Jotegir ackshunW Aaron Croft

I'm having trouble deciding if my riding experience is terrible enough that I need to spend $1000 on a height adjustable seat post to make my entire existence worthwhile.

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aaronufl
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Indeed. I justified electronic shifting because I got an AXS upgrade kit at a very steep discount. I'm happy to have it for the convenience but definitely wouldn't have bought it at full price. Dropping a grand on a seatpost is wild considering all the other more tangible upgrades (or trips) you could use that $ for.

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craw
+4 Mark Jotegir Atlas_Hub Zero-cool

I love this. What an incredible bit of technology. As someone who's soon to build a new bike that will probably see a fair bit of travel the idea of a wireless dropper appeals (big bike needs dropper removed to fit the bike in the travel bag). I don't need 250mm of drop but it's cool that it's available. 

It's a bit rich to say "When you are anywhere in between top and bottom, ActiveRide is engaged."  More like, when you are anywhere in between top and bottom, ActiveRide reminds you that our engineers failed to work this bug out of the system so now it's a feature. But granted, if it's a minor sensation it's probably no big deal; a subtle homage to earlier Reverbs.

And why on earth do we still have both 30.9 and 31.6? Can't we just pick one and drop the other? It's silly to have two sizes so close together.

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syncro
+2 Timer ohio

Yup on not having a standard seat post size across the industry. It's such a simple thing to implement.

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 Jerry Willows

That’s a cynical take which may or may not be accurate. #badCr4w continues to gain steam!

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Jotegir
+3 thaaad Cr4w Andy Eunson

I don't think it's on SRAM to pick between 30.9 and 31.6, especially since the internals are likely identical between the two like everybody else's droppers and there's plenty of bikes that are both. If the industry collectively decided that every single frame release from today forward was going to be 34.9, 30.9, 31.6 or any other somewhat arbitrary number, you'd still see SRAM releasing the other sizes in some models for at least a decade. 

If they really cared about solving the issue (and of all the stupid standards issue this isn't a big deal at all), they could just make 30.9 and put a shim in the box, but I'm sure looooots of people would complain and they'd lose sales. Fortunately you can solve the issue yourself by buying 30.9 posts exclusively and shimming in any event (which is what I do, exclusively purchase 30.9 posts) - hence why it's not really a big deal compared to something like super boost and boost, which are simply 100% incompatible except on some outlier frames that make various dropout options. 

I hear your frustration on the (lack of) bike industry standardization, but this isn't the standard size hill I'd be willing to die on. 

The ActiveRide thing is too damn funny though. You are 100% spot on that. Gotta keep in mind the guys who first designed the original reverb are like 15 years older than when they started work on that one. Maybe one of them pulled an older bike out of the ceiling with a post in need of a rebuild, rode around a bit, and said "hey this is pretty good!".

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syncro
+2 thaaad bushtrucker

I'm not wanting to die on that hill either, but I find that needing to consider this sort of minutiae when upgrading a frame or adding a bike to the stable is just dumb imho.

Edit - good point about the shims in this case tho.

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craw
+1 Jotegir

I totally agree that it's not on SRAM to resolve that. But they are at the front of the line of companies making consistent change to standards. We need a 27.2 for steel, 30.9 or 31.6 for carbon, and 34.9 for big bikes which is probably what all mountain bikes should be. It wouldn't be that hard to do just stop offering 30.9 posts and frame so that moving forward all bikes in that category use 31.6 and old 30.9 gear can be shimmed in. If most mountain bikes switched to 34.9 eventually that could be the defacto standard for bikes with droppers.

I'd have to try the new Reverb to see if a little softness feels off or not. It seems like the last point on their checklist of things to do and they just said "F it this is close enough just give it a marketing name and say it's a feature so we can start recouping costs".

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BewaretheKragle
+3 LWK bushtrucker Andy Eunson

Lol, using this logic to justify purchasing a $1000 electronic dropper kills me. 

> So, if you have two bikes, which doesn't seem unlikely if you are spending this much on a dropper, the value starts to improve.

  • Your have enough money to easily/reasonably afford a $1000 electronic dropper post
  • Your have enough money to easily/reasonably afford 2 MTBs
  • You don't have enough money to afford a second dropper. Huh?

Using this type of logic is what keeps poor people poor because it's such a horrible way to view monetary value. If you can't afford a second dropper (mechanical or not) you probably shouldn't be buying a second bike let alone a $1000 dropper.

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cam@nsmb.com
+2 bushtrucker ohio

My assumption was related to people who already own two bikes but I absolutely see your point. 

I also wrote something with Sacki about 34.9 posts. BikeYoke is the only company that makes their internals a different diameter for that size, allowing them to keep wall thickness consistent and weight down. 

One of the problems with smaller diameter posts is a non-issue now that seat tubes are so steep. The stresses posts are exposed to have been reduced dramatically.

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bikedrd
+3 Niels van Kampenhout Mark ohio

My issue with moving posts is the varrying seat tube angles. If I also have to adjust the angle, which I would, I’m now inconvenienced.

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syncro
+1 ohio

Good counter-counter point to Cam's counterpoint. This also brings up another point of having to adjust fore/aft position on the seat rails as well every time you swap.

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Timer
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It’s also not a realistic way to think about value because changing around the dropper (particularly if shims are needed) costs time and effort. 

Not having to spend 5 minutes before every ride changing around droppers could easily be worth a couple hundred dollars.

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LWK
+2 Timer jmvdigital

"A cable can change dramatically over the course of a ride"  Has this actually happened?  Seems a bit of hyperbole. 

Maybe its because I ride in dry places, but once I've set up my dropper I basically never have to touch the cable again...

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andy-eunson
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Maybe if you crash and damage the housing or break off the remote mount like I did last fall. Cable friction will increase over time but it’s usually a slow process that doesn’t change noticeably over a ride. Over a season maybe. 

That’s a lot of Jake for a post that seems to be different or marginally better. 

I’m not buying the "it’s spongy at full height and that’s better for tech climbs" bull shit. Tires, suspension and saddle flex and squish of the foam are all the compliance we need. I don’t think that bit of spongy will have any real affect though. 

I can only fit a 170 drop Oneup on either of my bikes due to the curved seat tube on the hardtail and on the Fuel ex due to the seat hitting the tire at full travel and the exit point of the internal routing. 

It looks nifty and all but I can’t see any significant benefit to electric actuators.

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 LWK

I have absolutely started rides with no post issues and had them crop up part way through, multiple times. I ride a lot in very shitty weather though, and I ride all year.

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Andeh
+2 Cam McRae jmvdigital

On the subject of just buying 30.9 and shimming up... I did that with my two gen1 170 AXS posts.  It worked fine, most of the time.  The first time I shimmed it to 31.6 with a cheapo Problem Solvers shim, it creaked like crazy.  Switching to a Cane Creek (no pun intended) shim and slathering both the lower post and shim in marine grease made the noise go away.

At this point none of the brands bikes I'd conceivably run are 30.9, so I just went with a 31.6 for the new shiny this time since all 3 of my bikes are currently 31.6.

I liked the gen1 style saddle clamp for ease in dialing in the tilt, but I guess the new style has the advantage of eventually being compatible with an Anomaly Switchgrade.

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rigidjunkie
+1 ohio

I have general ambivalence about the electric droppers, in the past 10 years I have adjusted the height of a seat post exactly zero times after initially getting it the right height.  Thus I have also had exactly zero issues with cable actuated posts.  I had a hydro reverb on a bike and that was just slightly better than no dropper at all.  

What I do ask is you chill with the pics of that We Are One bike.  That thing might be the sexxxxiest thing on 2 wheels.

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cam@nsmb.com
0

You obviously live somewhere dry Allen!

Cannot chill on the Arrival - it's all I've got - and I do love it.

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Ripbro
0

Have WAO stopped making the arrival? I don't see it listed on their site anymore. If so, do they still support the bike if it is no longer being made?

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Jotegir
+1 Cam McRae

No, it's no longer publicly available. Yes, they still support it.

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 ohio

Hopefully it’s more accurate to say, “not currently available.”

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Jotegir
0

I dunno, Rnayel won the KBRA raffle mania promotion which stated: "This is it: the last We Are One Arrival ever made. No more production, no more stock - this is the only available Arrival on the planet. The WR1 team fired up the mold one final time to create this masterpiece exclusively for the KBRA".

Knowing those guys decently well, if there's a chance to get an unridden Arrival you might have to work there! Even then, not sure.

Now that I'm thinking about it though, I don't think the Edmonton Oilers Arrival ever sold (it's an XL), someone could probably phone them up and get it if it was still around.

xy9ine
+1 Tim Coleman

there's a wild amount of tech stuffed into that specific seat / post combo.

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Ride.DMC
+1 Mark

If the post came on a bike, or if I was building up two bikes from scratch, this is absolutely the way I would go.  

I rode a cable/hydraulic Reverb for 3 years with zero issues and zero maintenance.  In fact, the consistency/feel of the hydraulic reverb lever was better than any of the cable actuated levers I have used (which include YT Postman, a couple versions of the OneUp, and a PNW).

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syncro
+1 Cr4w

This was something I thought about (portability) before making my comment, but unfortunately there is NFS (no fucking standard) for seat post sizing in the bike/mtb world. What happens when the 2+ bikes you want/have don't have the same seat post diameter? It's the sort of thing drives frustration in the mtb world.

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cam@nsmb.com
+3 Jerry Willows Mark BarryW

I mentioned a solution to that, which I have implemented successfully: “I only order posts in 30.9 and keep shims on hand to fit 31.6 and 34.9 frames. This works perfectly and often saves a significant amount of weight. Most droppers have internals of the same diameter and to make the posts fit different frames, they simply increase the wall thickness, making the posts much heavier.”

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syncro
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Yeah that's a fair point. I recall a while back though Andrew addressed this sort of thing in an article and talk about the advantages of all seat posts going 34.9 not only for standardization but in the interest of potentially a better product when it comes to adjustable seat posts.

Edit - I should say I like the concept here, but even with the portability/shim factor the price seems a bit wild.

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craw
+2 Timer Mark

If there was just 34.9 they could design and build the posts better instead of having to make compromises to accommodate three diameters. Imagine how reliable a post could be if they have to make the internals the ideal size and only have to fit 34.9?

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syncro
+2 Jotegir Zero-cool

C'mon Cr4w, we all know this is just crazy talk. After everyone gets on board with the 34.9 standard some lunatic is going to propose that their "new" 34.7 post is 25% moar betterer. 

Every time this sort of thought cycle spins 'round the only conclusion that I can draw is humans are stupid.

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Zero-cool
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SRAM would release the Dub version which has a minutely smaller diameter.

ohio
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Honest q - why do you think the larger option is superior (vs 30.9)? The smaller diameter is significantly lighter, strong enough to support 240mm of travel on a oneup, and has theoretically less seal drag. Why go bigger?

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KawaBunghole
+1 Andy Eunson

600 psi? Who even has a 600 psi shock pump?

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Jotegir
+1 ohio

Rockshox. Just make sure the plastic insert without friction or loctite that's prone to spinning loose on bottom is threaded on tight!

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XXX_er
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the cable on the SDG is a bit of  a pain but not painful enough to spend 1000$ !

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Timmigrant
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I've been a huge fan of the original AXS Reverb. Primarily how easy it is to install and its reliability. I've had it across multiple bikes and have yet to have a service after 4 years of use 5-6 days a week. I'm hoping this new one is as just as good! 

I am sad to see the old AXS Reverb mounting system go, I loved that I could pull the sale in seconds without the seat angle changing. And having short legs and large bikes, stack height is often an issue for me.

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tdc_worm
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While I prefer the saddle mounting system on the V1, the fears of changing the saddle angle on the V2 are unfounded.  

Once you have your desired saddle angle, you simply loosen and remove ONLY the rear bolt and nut on the seat clamp assembly (also keeps you from fiddling with the off Axis front bolt and your hex tools inevetable contact with the seatpost stansion).  Slide the bottom side of the clamp out. You now have room to manipulate the top clamp and and saddle to remove it.  Because the front bolt is never manipulated, you should return to the desired saddle angle when you reverse order.

Where the OneUp clamp assembly has an advantage is that the holes in the top clamp are slotted and allow front and rear bolts to be fully disengaged without removal of their respective nuts.

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bogdan-m
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Can you confirm the stack height? Based on your measurements it would imply a 250mm stack height ( bottom of seat collar to seat rail in max extension) ,,, 596-346mm. SRAMs website seem to imply the stack is 287mm ... could you confirm. I think someone messed up the measurements somewhere

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 ohio

I didn't measure stack height actually. I measured from the top of the post collar to the cradle of the lower  portion of the seat clamp. I can do that later though.

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briantortilla
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Random question, but are you running a 170 Fox 36 on the Arrival? If so how do you find it compared to a 38 or Zeb at 170?

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Trogdor
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Zero-cool
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So this time around squishy Reverb sag is a feature?

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Andeh
-1 Andy Eunson

I just got a first ride on my 200mm one.  The squish thing is almost imperceptible to me; I probably wouldn't have felt it without knowing it was there.  It felt like having a slightly more cushioned saddle. It can't be more than like 1-2mm of movement out of the box at whatever pressure it ships at. There's no looseness in the rotation like a OneUp has.

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Zero-cool
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I’m sure it’s a great post and works brilliantly, I just find it hilarious that the old Reverbs were basically written off by riders for their dreaded squish for years and then in the new one they’ve actually gone and named the squish as a feature. 

Mi get that it’s longer and cheaper than the last generation (not stupid tariffs on it in the UK).

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cooperquinn
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Its not really "new", the XPLR post has used this system and mechanism for years.

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dorkweed
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Is it possible to connect this to an eeb main battery like you can with at least some of the AXS T-type derailleurs?

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ohio
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Apparently not, nope, according to PB. At least for now.

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