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Review

Introducing: SRAM Eagle Mechanical Drivetrain

Photos Deniz Merdano (unless mentioned)
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When I first got the full briefing on the SRAM AXS T-type electronic system, my mind quickly went to cables. It seemed obvious that the benefits of the Full Mount interface could be just as effective for a cable actuated system.

You are likely already aware that the whole UDH gambit wasn't about a universal derailleur hanger at all; it was about getting rid of the hanger and mounting the derailleur to the 12mm axle that is found at the rear of most recent higher level mountain bikes. This stout interface is a big part of why the system can shift so well under load, and take a punch; the hanger, which has always been the weakest link, was eliminated. At the time I knew it would be great to get those features without mortgaging your future to pay for it, but I wasn't sure that was ever going to happen. I feared we may have been doomed to a purely electronic future that would put those performance gains out of reach.

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Ross Measures (right) and Alex Rafferty from SRAM dealing with the absence of tube in tube guides on my We Are One Arrival frame. SRAM likes to have staff install test product when possible. Photo - Cam McRae

It would have been a bit of a waste if all of those UDH compatible frames could only take advantage of SRAM's new system using the very pricy Transmission electronic shifter and derailleur.

SRAM was mum about cables when T-Type was released, as you'd expect, but I remained impatiently hopeful. Considering how many frames are now built to the UDH standard, the arrival of a more reasonably-priced version without batteries or motors is great news for mountain bikers who don't want to spend a minimum of 1100 USD on a drivetrain.

While electronic shifting is nice, I don't have much problem with cables, or at least that's what I though until I got on SRAM's Eagle Mechanical 90 after over a year of riding T-type almost exclusively on my personal bike and various test bikes.

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I must sheepishly admit that, after a long stretch pushing buttons, pulling cable felt foreign, a bit primitive and awkward. Thankfully, those pathetic sensations faded towards the end of the first ride.

Trickling Down

After my bike was all set up with Eagle Mechanical 90 and I began using it, I noticed that I was feeling challenged. Why is the cable throw so long, I wondered (it's not), and why am I struggling to shift in certain situations that would be easy with T-Type?

It turns out I had become accustomed to the speed and convenience of buttons and servos. When you can slide your thumb over to make an instantaneous shift, and then immediately get back to handling your bike, you make changes that aren't feasible with cables. That split second longer actuation time is significant and it trains you to shift when previously you would have muscled it out or stalled, because there wasn't time. We humans get used to things very quickly but fortunately we can revert almost as fast. Before long I was getting along just fine with this modern-retro system.

DM Trevor Cam Deniz Forbidden Sram wtb 1

For better or worse, the Eagle 90 derailleur lacks some of the muscular geometric aesthetics of T-type derailleurs, but it's not bad looking.

Transmission Mechanical Highlights (according to SRAM)

  • Full Mount/hangerless interface for robust interface
  • Shifts very well under load
  • fully rebuildable with replacement parts available
  • Cranks available in lengths down to 155mm or 150mm for eMTB
  • Shift lever is built with modern shift ergonomics and a premium textured aluminum lever touchpoint
  • Full Mount Eagle 90 derailleur is the most rebuildable Eagle Transmission derailleur, with replaceable B-Knuckle, Inner/Outer Links, Bash Guards, Bushings, Cage, and Cage Assembly  

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SRAM calls the Eagle 90 mech, "the most rebuildable derailleur ever." SRAMies* compete to see who can pull them apart and rebuild them fastest, and the times are very quick. Photo - Cam McRae

*code for SRAM employees

Setup

SRAM likes to say that setting up T-Type, or Eagle Mech, is easier than getting a conventional derailleur dialled, and that you'll be amazed. This may be overstating things some. The steps themselves aren't hard, but there are procedures to be followed that will be entirely foreign to anyone who has spent years reining in derailleurs dangling from a hanger.

Beyond that, everything must happen in the correct order to get the desired result. There are obviously a couple of differences here when compared to AXS T-Type: you've got to install and properly tension a cable, run the cable through (or along) your frame, and you can't shift the derailleur into the setup cog (one of two) by clicking the AXS button, as you do with T-Type (because there isn't one).

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The little hex shaped hole above the cable fixing bolt accepts either a 5 or 6mm hex tool. Photos - Cam McRae

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Once the appropriate cog for your bike is determined, using the SRAM AXS app, a 5 or 6mm hex is used to hold the derailleur in the appropriate cog for the set up procedure.

This process must happen before you install your cable, so how do you have your derailleur stay in the setup cog? SRAM has come up with an ingenious solution to that step. There is a hex shaped opening in the derailleur that accepts either a 5 or 6mm hex key. The 5 holds the derailleur in line with the 7th cog (21t) and the 6 aligns with the 8th (27t).* This is necessary because the cable will be attached after this process is complete, whereas with T-Type you can use the AXS button to shift the chain into the correct set up cog. The hex key trick is a slick solution to ease the process.

*Some bikes use one and some use the other and the SRAM AXS app should tell you which one is recommended for your bike. If your bike isn't included in the list, there is a procedure to follow to determine which cog you'll need.

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Shifts are limited to one cog per actuation for eMTBs but pedal bikes will get up to two cogs per click.

Eagle 90 Shifter

Shifts are limited with Eagle Mechanical. If you are pedalling your own ass up the hill, you'll be able to bang out two cogs per shift. If you ride an eMTB, you'll only be able to get one cog per actuation.

At first it felt like the throw was quite long but that was while I was recovering from my stretch of T-type-only riding. Now that I've been reset, it actually feels like the downshifts (to a larger cog) don't require more throw than other conventional shifters. I haven't done any measurements yet but I'm waiting on a response from SRAM about how much cable is pulled or released per shift compared to other cable shifters.

Overall the action feels good but I didn't notice an improvement in terms of thumb effort or smoothness compared to other high performance systems, including SRAM's, and it seems to require a little more power than higher end Shimano shifters. I appreciated the textured surface but I'd like to see a high friction rubber pad for next level grip.

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The friction provided by the indented ridges is adequate but a rubber pad would be appreciated.

Spare Parts Available for Eagle 90 derailleur

  • B-Knuckle replacement kit
  • Skid plate and link replacement kit
  • Cage and damper assembly kit
  • Cage only assembly kit
  • Inner Cage replacement kit
  • Pulley replacement kit
  • Bushing replacement kit
  • Cable & housing replacement kit
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This is what it looks like dirty. There were no shifting problems in sloppy conditions. Photo - Cam McRae

Cranks Cassette and Chain

Any T-type chain, chainring or cassette will work with an Eagle 70 or 90 derailleur, so these components are most likely to be seen as original equipment on new bikes. While SRAM doesn't recommend this, it is possible to use an aftermarket chainring or even a conventional AXS ring. This may reduce the longevity of your chain, but when I first got on T-type there wasn't a chainring available for the bike my system was mounted on, and it works perfectly to this day.

The Eagle 90 Group comes with a GX T-type chain and cassette while the 70 group introduces a step below GX. Unlike regular GX AXS, I've had a good experience riding the GX running gear on T-type and haven't noticed any premature wear. The Eagle 70 stuff can't be evaluated until there is some real world data out there from unaffiliated riders, which may take some time.

The cranks come with steel chainrings and they look fine. They are available in lengths down to 155mm for pedal bikes and 150m for eMTBs.

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The Eagle 90 and 70 cranks come with a steel direct mount chainring and can be ordered in arm lengths down to 155mm for pedal bikes or 150 for eMTBs.

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The cranks look pretty good, considering they are all business. They also come with an integrated bash guard.

On The Trail

There is one Eagle Mech shift that outpaces the T-type derailleurs I've ridden, or any other system. I didn't pay it much attention until another early tester mentioned it, but upshifts, into a smaller cog/larger gear, are even smoother with the Eagle 90 system. Sometimes it doesn't even make a sound and it feels like the cog has simply magically shed some teeth. This is generally a pretty easy shift but most systems produce a clunk that is usually absent with Eagle 90.

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I haven't encountered a single problem on the trail and shifting has been excellent with Eagle 90. And you never have a dead battery.

Like T-type, this system shifts better under load than it does in the workstand or when soft pedalling. I've made some deliberately bad shifts and the 90 keeps on truckin'. It doesn't feel slower than T-type, which sometimes seems to hesitate, waiting for the right shift ramp to appear but I can't yet say if it's faster either. Speed seems a little situation-dependent so more ride time is needed.

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I was able to shift confidently in dodgy circumstances using SRAM Eagle Mechanical, and some shifts were as good or better than any system I've ever used.

It doesn't appear that the Eagle 90 derailleur is much smaller than T-type, but I don't seem as prone to bonking it against hard objects. That's not science, and it's early, but it seems worth noting. The shape is a little different so perhaps there is something to it. It's also possible that I'm finally getting used to giving my derailleurs a wider berth around hazards.

It's difficult to compare the way Eagle 90 shifts to, let's say Shimano XTR 9100, because that system can downshift four cogs at once, but it seems to me XTR feels a little smoother, despite not quite matching the shifting down under load performance, or the upshifting performance in any circumstances.

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SRAM has priced Eagle Mechanical competitively, bringing the benefits of T-type to a much wider group of riders.

Final Thoughts

The only major criticisms I have had about SRAM's Transmission system are price and the fact that it's larger form-factor makes it easier to smack. Other people find the system a little slow in some circumstances but this hasn't been a detriment to my riding.

SRAM has addressed that Gucci-level pricing by bringing Eagle Mechanical down to earth (see below) and the fully rebuildable architecture helps offset the time it might take to get used to determining how much space your derailleur needs to survive over the long term.

The system shifts crisply and smoothly while easily outpacing any other cable actuated system under load. You can shift without thinking using Eagle Mech, but only one or two shifts at a time.

While Electronic T-type systems are very slick and easy to use, and I'd happily never string a cable through a frame again, I could be content using Eagle 90 for the rest of my riding life, and never have to worry about charging batteries for my derailleur and shifter again.

These systems should be available at retailers and online shortly, if they aren't already.

Prices

  • Eagle 90 rear derailleur (395g) 190 USD/205 EUR/185 GBP
  • Eagle 90 shifter (135g) 50 USD/55 EUR/50 GBP
  • Eagle 70 rear derailleur (415g) 125 USD/ 135 EUR/120 GBP
  • Eagle 70 rear shifter (145g) 30 USD/ 35.00 EUR/30 GBP
  • Eagle 90 Groupset: 670 USD/730 EUR/655 GBP
  • Eagle 90 eMTB Groupset: 660 USD/720 EUR/645 GBP

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craw
+6 ohio Velocipedestrian Kristian Øvrum Nick Meulemans Vincent Edwards Alex_L

In SRAM world, this concession to the poors is still significantly more expensive than XT. 

Switching to the better UDH hanger-free interface is a definite plus but the more expensive rebuildable derailleur (which is probably tougher than any of the high end Shimano offerings) and the insanely priced SRAM cassettes with a pretty unsexy shifter compared to XT or XTR. I don't know if I would opt for this on my next bike, but it's cool to have another option. TBH I probably wouldn't choose it but I have a feeling I'll be offered it as a build kit option when I buy my next bike at a price I can't refuse.

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rigidjunkie
+4 Cr4w Timer Kristian Øvrum bushtrucker

Imagine if someone created a top knuckle for XT that attached to your frame like the SRAM stuff? To me that would be the best solution.  Feels like some CAD and CNC work and Cascade could create something a ton of people would love to have.

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cooperquinn
+1 Cr4w

Ratio Technology teased this, but I don't think it ever saw the light of day. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck8irwVK1rk/?hl=en

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ohio
+1 Cooper Quinn

I'd be surprised if Ratio ever produces it, because at least by my reading, it would violate the SRAM patent.

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3388324B1/en?

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craw
+1 Kristian Øvrum

This is a good answer. Bonus that it's a piece that could move from derailleur to derailleur.

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GnarlsNishi
+1 Andy Eunson

Does anyone else remember the Specialized hangers on 2008ish Demos and Statuses that used a second part with a little 5mm pin that stuck into the derailleur mounting bolt? I could see something like that coming back.

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kamloops_rider
+2 DancingWithMyself Slinger

Over the years, the fact that you can diy rebuild most of SRAM's offerings (including suspension) has been it's greatest strength in my eyes.  Not to mention readily available detailed manuals and parts.

I do like Shimano but I don't like how their products are largely disposable once there's an issue.

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denomerdano
+6 Znarf Kristian Øvrum Nick Meulemans atwork123 bishopsmike Jotegir

You can not credit SRAM for non-servicable clutches. It is the biggest flaw in their ecosystem.

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kamloops_rider
+6 Abies Cam McRae Nicolas Brunner jordaño DancingWithMyself jaydubmah

I've never had issues with SRAM clutches nor have I had issues with Shimano clutches so I can't comment on that.  However, as nsmb had an excellent article on Shimano clutch maintenance, I would agree that's a win for Shimano.

Regardless, in my experience I still prefer SRAM derailleurs for their durability and that they just work with virtually no maintenance.  Shimano on the other hand requires more maintenance and is just more finicky to external factors such as dirt, mud, impacts, etc.  I'm still bitter on my XT shifter multi-release tiny spring breaking and rendering the 1 year old shifter useless as no parts exists nor can you take it apart without damaging it.  Again, all of this in my experience.

Just wanted to point out how great it is to have parts that are serviceable for home mechanics.  Don't want to start a SRAM vs Shimano debate as I know there's plenty of people who have the opposite experience to mine.

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Jotegir
+1 kamloops_rider

Kamloops is easy on clutches though! Probably a lot harder on them when you ride in slop in the sea to sky all winter and spring.

Now don't get me started on what our moon dust does to fork bushings...

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Landonarkens
+2 Cam McRae Velocipedestrian

We're getting closer to the Universal Bash Guard! The new Eagle 70 Transmission chainring is 3 bolt direct mount and compatible with GX and XO bash guards. Love to see it!

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MrNico
+2 Squint Bearlover

Long time Sram 11-speed and Eagle (non T-Type) fan here (weight and durability on X01/XX1).

Yet, can someone who has ridden both explain to me, why I would choose Sram T-Type Mechanical over Shimano Linkglide?

Obviously Shimano Linkglide is 11-speed only and has a bit a smaller range (11-50 compared to 10-52), but I personally don't really care. Both are said to shift well under load.

Weight-wise they are very close to each other (Shimano Linkglide cassette a bit heavier, but Sram Derailleur and Cranks heavier). Price-wise: No comment.

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Sebov
+1 Nicolas Brunner

Depends on the bike: 

- On an E-Bike weight isn’t an issue. Just go for LinkGlide (switched on my E-Bike from X01, because the cassettes and chains were too expensive). Works just smooth. Nobody will say: hey, great LinkGlide. But who cares: chain up and down. That‘s it.

- bike: you can opt for lighter cassettes within the Transmission eco system and increase the weight gap to LinkGlide. That’s what I am thinking about for my short travel bike - as a die hard X01 fanboy who thinks after riding a LinkGlide E-Bike that some slower but more precise shifting would be also good in the Non-E-Bike-world.

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XXX_er
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I found the steel NX drive trainwas pretty cheap to replace on the e-bike but I stick with those X01 chains cuz nothing tougher and even then I broke an XO1 chain

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morgan-heater
+1 jmvdigital

Is it at least lighter than the electronic version? Seems like the ever increasing range and chonkyness of the current 1x systems are making gearbox suspension performance arguments more and more convincing.

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Frorider
+1 Sandy James Oates

According to other reviews, there is no weight saving unfortunately

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cam@nsmb.com
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The Eagle 90 derailleur weighs 395g so you are saving weight there, even over the XX version which is 463g (XO 473, GX GX 492). Once you add cable and housing it's likely a dead heat at best.

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IslandLife
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Based on another review, the weight savings from the removal of the battery and motor is made up by the addition of cables, housings and larger shifter. Ends up being virtually the same system weight.

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kos
+1 DancingWithMyself

How is this better than the lovely tactility of non-AXS XO1/XX1 Eagle? What am I missing?

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NickM
+1 Jotegir

Your wallet weighs less!

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cooperquinn
0

Shift quality is vastly different, especially under load.

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DancingWithMyself
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I have the same question as Kos.  I'm perfectly fine with shifting my X01 mechanical by easing up on the pedals and timing shifts (prob cause I've avoided electronic drivetrains).  Could you comment on tacticle feel and other things besides shifting under load?  Thank you1

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cooperquinn
+1 DancingWithMyself

I too come from decades of shifting "correctly", but it's really neat what you can do when all that goes out the window and you can just shift like a complete muppet with zero consequences, haha. 

You'll have to be more specific though.... tactile feel of what? and what other things? Happy to answer, just not sure what you're looking for.

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DancingWithMyself
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I bet it is.  I was absolutely not trying to be snarky about shifting correctly.  Part of my hesitancy is I feel like I'd have to go transmission on all my bikes so I wouldn't destroy my other drivetrains.

I'm wondering more about lightness of shifting action, speed of shift, accuracy when shifting multiple gears (although I suppose that's not as big of a deal with only two cogs at a time), and general ability to feel/sense what's going on.  More along manual transmission, connection-to-the-machine, sensory experience lines.

I paid attention on my ride today and noticed multiple instances where I shifted up the cassette three cogs at a time at sudden down-to-up sections.  I think I'd have a real hard time giving that up, but maybe it wouldn't be a big deal if I could mash on the pedals the whole time I was shifting.

Thank you!

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SixZeroSixOne
+1 Tehllama42

No prices in CAD? Did I fall asleep one night and wake up in the 51st State?? ;-)

Or are the prices locally too horrific to print?

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cam@nsmb.com
+1 bishopsmike

We often don't get CAD prices at press time unfortunately. I assume SRAM chooses the biggest markets and sets those prices first.

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rnayel
0

Cam, any idea if we can use XX1 eagle mechanical shifter with this system? The 90 shifter seems to be the weak point in terms of attractiveness.

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cooperquinn
+3 ClydeRide Andy Eunson ohio

Pull ratio is different.

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Sean_D
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Did SRAM give a reason for changing this instead of allowing backwards compatibility?

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cam@nsmb.com
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Cooper nailed it.

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andy-eunson
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When you shift to a higher gear do you have to release the paddle before it shifts like the older SRAM shifters or is like Shimano where it shifts when it clicks?

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cam@nsmb.com
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I’ve been out of the office and I can’t check but from memory it requires a click.

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denomerdano
+1 Andy Eunson

If I remember it right, its release priority

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cooperquinn
+1 Andy Eunson

Correct. It's an IP thing.

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Timmigrant
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Even though I'm a big AXS fan, this looks like a great groupset, and love the rebuildable-ness of the derailleur. 

That steel chain ring also looks very interesting to me! Is that steel chain ring specific to the 70 and 90 cranks, or is it compatible with the higher end T-Type cranks?

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cam@nsmb.com
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The chainring works with a GX T-type chain so it should be fine on any other t-type.

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cooperquinn
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Yes, 90 cranks are just a standard SRAM 8-bolt. So the steel ring is compatible with everything current, except for spider-based power cranks (obviously?).

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ohio
+1 DancingWithMyself

So annoying they switched MTB cranks to the 8-bolt road standard. The 3-bolt worked great and had been around forever. Who wants to swap 8 bolts to change chainrings?

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cooperquinn
0

There's some minor upsides to the 8 bolt, but really, how often are you changing chainrings that this is an issue? I can't say I'm doing that more than like... annually.

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ohio
0

As someone who played around with round and oval rings, and experimented between 28, 30, and 32t... I have changed a lot of rings to figure out my preference. Thankfully some of it was while I had the OneUp switch system. I also have swapped rings for destinations - when I ran a 30t for home trails, I'd toss on a 32 for, say, a Whistler trip or a Oaxaca shuttle trip.

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rigidjunkie
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Any idea if the aluminum mount on both sides of a carbon swingarm could snap the frame rather than the derailleur? I know we can stand on these things and not break anything, but if I do get something jammed in there am I risking frame over derailleur?

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cam@nsmb.com
+3 Allen Lloyd Sandy James Oates Andy Eunson

This is could be a long shot possible outcome but it seems very unlikely to me. Likely the only way it could happen would be if the axle broke.

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Jotegir
0

Seeing as I snapped an axle under normal riding conditions last year.... maybe I'll pass on this one! Hah!

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KawaBunghole
0

Cam, how do you like those Bikeyoke grips? The design looks solid, but there's not much real world feedback out there on them.

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cam@nsmb.com
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I’m like them a lot. They are well thought out and they have a hard end so they won’t be messed up after the first crash. I said a little more in my article about their new bars. My only issue with them is that they are a little thick for my preference. But only by a very small margin.

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ackshunW
+1 Cam McRae

Agree, the design is good, I like the integrated hard but smooth end. 

I think they’re too small/thin though!! 5’-11” person, L or M glove size.

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DaveSmith
0

So retro.

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texasranger
0

Could I run this with an archer d1x and regular eagle drivetrain?

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cam@nsmb.com
0

The derailleur? That sounds like an opportunity to experiment. It's not cheap for mad science though.

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cooperquinn
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What do you mean "this" with a "regular eagle drivetrain"? 

If you mean "this derailleur" with a "regular eagle drivetrain", no. You have to run a flattop chain with this derailleur, which isn't compatible with the previous cassettes/chainrings.

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texasranger
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Yes, I meant mix and match this derailleur with my current xx1 chain and gx casette. Why does the derailleur require a flat top chain?

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cooperquinn
0

The rollers on a flattop chain are a different diameter*, and then there's the whole "one side is flat" bit that the rollers also have to be designed for. 

*this is why your normal chainwear checker doesn't work...

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cam@nsmb.com
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I don’t believe the recomendation is to do with the chain being flat on top. I believe that is mostly an aesthetic choice but there are apparently other differences in the chain that makes using a conventional Eagle chain undesirable in terms of wear and performance. There are likely examples of people trying T-type with various chains with varying success. Having not tried it, I can only tell you that SRAM says that a non-T-type chain is not compatible.

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NickM
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"SRAM likes to have staff install test product when possible."
That is a huge red flag to me; I understand that suspension brands may doctor product before shipping to a consumer, but part of the user experience may be installation and initial set up, doing this for a reviewer is a poor look IMO.

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cooperquinn
+1 Alex_L

Shimano used to require review Di2 product was installed at an approved facility. There's a lot to learn from installing stuff with the pros - its a great opportunity for reviewers to get a full rundown and spend time with the people who know the product best. And yes, it's certainly in their best interests to ensure product gets installed correct for a review, they want the highest chances everything works correctly.

I hear your reservations, but there's also nothing stopping reviewers from removing and re-installing said product during the review period.

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Jotegir
+1 Nick Meulemans

Yeah but speaking as someone who has installed quite a few DI2 systems.... good for them, installing DI2 sucked and honestly any reviewer not familiar with the install process that had to try to bungle their way through various e-tubes and e-wires (just asking a reviewer what length of e-tubes to send would be a nightmare; oh, you have an issue with your e-tube? is that with the wires or the software or the controller?) would be inclined to give it a bad review from the get-go.

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cooperquinn
+1 Jotegir

My first Di2 install was the 12-speed GRX, and... man. Bit of a nightmare, for sure. 

But those concerns are valid for any complex product really, not just Di2. Is the cable housing length correct? The b-tension procedure is somewhat foreign, did they actually get it right? Did they count chain links correctly? etc. 

All of those, if done incorrectly, could ruin a review.

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cam@nsmb.com
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I would prefer to install test product myself to be clear, but with a brand new product and a relatively short testing timeline before launch, I can see why this makes sense for SRAM. While SRAM is installing the product they are also doing a PK session on both the product and the setup procedure. Other brands sometimes do this as well. 

I can see why, for reasons of logistics and consistency, particularly when there is a range of mechanical knowledge and ability among reviewers - and they are dealing with media from all over the world. 

I’ve been told by an employee from a direct to consumer bike brand that they do “media builds” before sending out bikes (I honestly don’t recall which brand and I guess it’s good that they admitted it?) That’s a flag for sure considering they seemed unsure about the process they use with consumers but there isn’t anything deceptive going on here. SRAM is also somewhat dependent on us to communicate any necessary procedures effectively so going through the process with us makes some sense. 

In a perfect world - or when media camps were more common, it’s easier to imagine going through the process and then letting each tester install their own parts, which would be better for everyone.

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IslandLife
+1 Jotegir DancingWithMyself Nick Meulemans

As a professional marketer.. not a red flag.  This is just normal operation for a large manufacturer launching a brand new product.  They want to ensure that installation is perfect so that the subsequent review won't be negative due to a very simple install error. Humans make mistakes, so for something as important as this, it's best to not leave that to chance as much as possible.

This is a learned practice.

In my industry, I escort and hand-hold media as much as possible... I could write pages about how and why this is has become a best practice, suffice to say that removing as many points of error/failure/opportunities for mis-information as possible is just common sense at this point.

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andy-eunson
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"The 5 holds the derailleur in line with the 7th cog (21t) and the 6 aligns with the 8th (27t).* This is necessary because the cable will be attached after this process is complete,"

I don’t understand this. You use a hex to hold the derailleur in the middle of the cassette and then Attach the cable?

How does this not make the derailleur cable way too tight? I’m missing something here.

Never mind I just watched the SRAM set up video. I think setting up with the Allen key installed is setting what seems like b tension on other set ups. Then you let the derailleur shift to the 10 and then install the cable and housing as per normal. 

I don’t set up as being much easier than other set ups other than limit screws. Just different.

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cam@nsmb.com
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You need a hex key because this happens before you install the cable Andy. I should have made that more clear, but I think I did in my article about T-type installation. I have edited my text above to make that clearer. 

I would say it's a little less finicky than a conventional derailleur but I'm not sure I would call it easier because the steps aren't as intuitive. You can figure out how to set up a conventional derailleur by looking at it if you have some rudimentary mechanical knowledge (maybe aside from setting up B-tension for a recent non- T-type SRAM derailleur. That's not the case here.

Edit for clarity: The cable isn't installed when the hex key is in place. As with every other derailleur currently on the market, it's installed when the derailleur is fully outboard and in line with the smallest cog.

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andy-eunson
+1 Cam McRae

Probly my Evln Wd spd redn cors led me t mis rd th txt.

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tehllama42
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At this point, I actually have a tiny bit of pity for the poor SRAM engineers working on this.
They did a GOOD job... but because the end product is priced more than XT (and honestly dangerously close to XTR), they just made Shimano's offerings look that much better.

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