DIY
Installing a SRAM AXS T-Type Derailleur
This article was motivated by an oversight on my part. Last week when I posted a how-to on swapping a T-Type cage, I left out the most important part. The best way to do that job is to remove your rear derailleur, which means you are going to have to re-install and set it up again, and in that article I failed to provide that info. If you are just swapping a cage, there are fewer steps than I have listed below. I wanted to provide info for riders starting from scratch as well. If you scroll down you'll be able to determine when you need to start.
In the last five years or so I have really leaned into the DIY lifestyle beyond bikes. Usually the best source of information about how to do something I haven't done before is YouTube. Sometimes this works great but for multi-step procedures, I find it awkward. Often I need to go back and watch something again but I'm wearing gloves so I have to take them off and then an ad comes up and I can't find the spot I'm looking for so I skip an important step and screw everything up. So it's not the best.
For a task like this, with critical steps that must be done in a particular order, I prefer to have written instructions that don't scroll away from me the way a video does. Hopefully some of you will find this helpful.
T-Type isn't Like the Others
You'll need to forget most of what you know about installing a cable actuated drivetrain, and even a conventional AXS derailleur. Transmission mechs don't have limit or B-tension screws and obviously they don't have cables. In fact, you could easily set up T-Type without having a shifter in the room.
I'm not going to cover pairing your shifter and derailleur here but it's as easy as pressing the AXS button on your derailleur until the indicator light starts to blink, doing the same on your shifter, and waiting a moment until their union is complete. True love.
Before you start putting things on your bike, if you are doing this from scratch that is, there are three things you need to determine; chain length, Setup Cog, and Setup Key position. If that last one sounds like some obscure Tesla gizmo, don't worry, you are not alone.
Back in 2012, SRAM introduced a worthy and useful innovation and they called it Cage Lock. If you have used a SRAM derailleur since that time, you are likely familiar with it. On all SRAM derailleurs since, you can swing your derailleur cage forward past a little plunger that can be deployed to disengage the cage return spring and keep your cage out of the way. This is great for removing and replacing your rear wheel, installing a chain, cleaning your bike, replacing a jockey wheel or any task where your springy thingy used to get in the way. That is Cage Lock.
For T-Type, this now serves another function. It still works in the same way as Cage Lock but there is a new position called Set Up Mode. Instead of rotating your cage all the way forward, you rotate it to the point where there is a elbow in the inside arm of your cage. The wee plunger that used to be called Cage Lock now has two names; Cage Mode Button and Setup Key. It's called the Cage Mode button because it now can be put in Open mode, just like the Cage Lock function of other SRAM derailleurs, but also in Setup Mode. The reason it's also called the Setup Key is because it has two positions, A and B. Swapping involves popping out the plunger and turning it 180º, either with your bare hands or a small screwdriver.
Every bike that is compatible with UDH will require the Setup Key to be in one of those two modes. You can find out which mode works for your frame by using AXS web or using the AXS app. If you perform the set up in the wrong mode, your results may be unsatisfactory.* Switching the mode is as easy as pulling out the plunger, rotating it 180º and then reinserting it: no tools necessary.
*SRAM says you might even "damage your derail-your (as the voice in the SRAM how to videos says) or your bicycle."
Another variable is the Setup Cog. There is a red disc on T-Type cassettes indicating the 21t cog, which works for some frames but others require the 24t cog. When Transmission first arrived I don't recall this distinction and in my memory, every bike was set up using the red-marked 21t. How do you find out which cog your bike needs? This is also determined using AXS web or the AXS app.
Chain length is the third variable that is critical to setting up your SRAM Transmission and, impressively, you can look that up in either AXS web or the AXS app as well. It will tell you exactly how many links you need for your bike. If your frame is not listed, you are going to have to collect a little info and go through the procedure; measuring your chain stay, declaring whether your ride is full squish or hardtail, with an idler pulley or not, and then hit enter. SRAM's AI spits out an answer that also tells you whether your bike should be set up sagged or un-sagged.
If your bike is listed, all you need to do is count links and shorten as necessary. SRAM tells us the full length chain is 126 links so you only need to count down instead of starting with 2.*
*Surprisingly, chain links come in pairs so always count by twos
Tools Required
- T25 Torx
- 8mm hex head wrench
- 5 or 6mm hex for rear axle
- chain breaker (if you need to shorten your chain)
- small flat head screwdriver - or anything with sharp, flat point to swap the Setup Key
- cassette tool and everything else you need to install an entire drivetrain, if you are also swapping cranks or chainring
Hang the Parts
Now that you have determined your Setup Cog, Setup Key and chain length, it's time to slap everything into place.
First remove your rear wheel and then, if you have a UDH hanger in the frame, you'll need to remove it. Be aware these are reverse-threaded so you'll need to turn the bolt clockwise to loosen it.
Once that is gone you can install the T-Type derailleur.
Remove the Full Mount bolt from the derailleur and the bushing frame insert. This is a simple plastic bushing that sits between the bolt and your frame.
Install the Derailleur
- Slide the red bushing into the frame from the outside until the flange is flush, black side out. NOTE - do not apply any grease to the bushing or the frame.
- Before you position the derailleur, apply a small amount of grease to the threads and inner flange of the Full Mount Bolt.
- Make sure the knurled ring on the inside of the full mount is fully rotated clockwise.
- Position the derailleur below the bike and then slide it upward so the full mount holes align with the axle hole.
- Insert the bolt and tighten it (clockwise) until snug.
- Loosen the bolt (counterclockwise) by one full turn.
- Rotate the derailleur cage forward until it completely clears the Cage Mode Button and depress the button so the cage is in Open Mode.
- Swap the Setup Key to that specified for your bike, either A or B
Install the Wheel
- Grease the axle threads
- Install as you normally would but only tighten the axle until snug.
- Loosen the axle by one full turn.
Mount the Chain
By this point you should have determined your chain length and shortened the chain to that length.* You'll also need to put the Setup Key into A or B, depending on the recommendation for your bike , and know if you need Setup Cog 21 or 24.
*Some high pivot plus idler bikes will require more than 126 links and thus two chains.
- Advance the derailleur to align the appropriate Setup Cog using AXS button on the derailleur. One click of the button moves the cage outward and a double click moves it inward. I only recently learned that second trick.
- Thread the chain through the derailleur, being careful to align it inside the tab in the cage. Also make sure the flat top is facing away from the cassette.
- Pull the chain all the way through, over the Setup Cog and then over the chainring so both ends hang downward toward the floor.
- Use the Powerlock to join the chain, ensuring the flat top aligns with the rest of the chain. Make sure it is snapped together.
- Push the cage forward until the Cage Mode button releases.
- Put the cage in Setup Mode (rotate the cage forward again but only until the elbow in the inner part of the cage clears the button and then release.
- Rotate the chain so that the power link is on top, above the chainstay and between the cassette and the chainring. Engage the rear brake and push the pedal or crank down firmly to ensure the Powerlock is indeed locked. You can also use chain pliers for this if you have them.
Lock Things Down
This is a good time to verify that you've got your derailleur in Setup Mode, you are on the correct Setup Cog and Setup Key and that your bike is sagged or un-sagged, depending on the recommendation for your bike from SRAM.
- Pull back on the lower pulley of the derailleur to remove any slack from the chain.
- Rotate the cranks a few times to make sure everything is aligned properly.
- Continue to pull back on the lower pulley while tightening the mount bolt. If there is slack in the chain after this, repeat these steps.
- There is a raised indicator line on the knurled ring (the metal piece opposite from the mount bolt) and another on the Full Mount that is white. These should be aligned at this point. If they are not, repeat the steps above.
- Tighten the mount bolt, ideally to 35m. If you have a tool that will do that. I couldn't find an 8mm hex that would mate with my 1/2 inch drive torque wrench I use when swapping rims from summer to winter so I gave my best guess.
Using Micro Adjust
At this point you can check your shifting. Don't be alarmed if, while still on the stand, it isn't silky smooth. While T-Type shifts very well under load, it shifts worse when there is no load. At the same time, if it won't make a shift or if it is trying to go up or down the cassette when it should be staying in one cog, you may need to make some micro adjustments, either using your shifter's AXS button or with the app.* Doing it from the shifter is so easy I do it from the saddle if I have banged my cage and messed things up a little during a ride. All I need to do is reach over with my left hand and depress the AXS button, then I choose the button that shifts up or down the cassette with my right thumb, depending on which way I need to go. Every click while holding the AXS button moves the cage 0.2mm. It's a truly great AXS feature.
*I only use the AXS button method because it's so convenient
Micro Adjust Steps
- 1) Determine which direction your derailleur needs to go by either eyeballing it or paying attention to which shifts are problematic. If your derailleur isn't moving up the cassette well, use the button you've chosen to shift to a larger cog (lower gear). If you can see that the chain isn't vertically aligned with the cog it's in, determine which direction it needs to go and use that button.
- Depress the AXS button and then use the shift button that will move the chain in the direction you need to go, ether inboard or outboard.
- Attempt some up and down shifts to see how it's working. If the chain is hesitating to make the shift you've indicated, micro adjust in that direction. If the chain is shifting two cogs when you clicked once, or trying to shift beyond the direction you've indicated, you need to micro adjust in the opposite direction.
This is often a process of trial and error. If you can't nail down your shifting in this way, it may be that you need to start the process again, check your chain length, Setup Cog or Setup Mode. If your derailleur isn't new, it's possible your cage is bent. This isn't as easy to determine with T-Type because the pulleys are offset by design to keep the lower pulley more accurately aligned with the chainring through the entire cassette, so straight isn't straight.
There's nothing like the feeling of a smooth running machine that you had a hand in putting together, and T-Type makes this pretty easy, as long as you do a little homework using SRAM's tools, either online or with the app.
The entire value proposition of T-Type is yet to be determined, but if you're budget is tight, derailleurs that are pulled by a cable are a great place to save cash. It seems the T-Type chains and cassettes have very good longevity, based on early returns, and for the most part the derailleur seems to take a beating as advertised and keep shifting smoothly, for most people. An exception is for those who smack their hanger one too many times, as I did. Luckily this is a cheap and easy fix.
Even if the chains and cassettes last twice as long that doesn't scratch the surface. You'd have to smash a lot of cable-actuated XO derailleurs before you begin to approach the cost of an entire GX Type drivetrain. And that XO would work almost as well in all but the worst situations, and infinitely better than AXS with a dead battery in the shifter or derailleur.
If you prefer the analog simplicity of cables, I won't try to talk you out of it. Aside from tangling with challenging internal cable routing for the rear derailleur, I am very close to as happy using that heirloom technology. I prefer the shifting feel of Shimano but I'm also fond of the durability and longevity of SRAM's derailleurs, chains and cassettes. Overall I'd say we're lucky to have two solid choices in such an important category.
If you like to be able to shift even when you shouldn't be able to, (finding yourself on a shitty surprise incline in the wrong gear on a long trail chasing your buddies), and you like gizmos and innovation and don't mind batteries, T-Type is pretty cool.
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Cr4w
1 month, 1 week ago
I'm so fascinated by this new generation of shifting gear but that's inversely proportional to the likelihood of me ever running it.
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Jerry Willows
1 month, 1 week ago
when it's spec'd on the model you want, you get it and it's really not that bad. I had the same feelings but the ability to shift under full load is kind of a game changer.
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Perry Schebel
1 month, 1 week ago
are there current drivetrains that are especially bad at shifting under load? apart from the pinion, i haven't been on anything that doesn't shift reasonably well under decent loads (tho entirely possible i'm not putting down enough watts to notice).
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Andy Eunson
1 month, 1 week ago
Well. We are older Perry.
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Jerry Willows
1 month, 1 week ago
big difference from reasonable shifting under load to to WOW, it shifts better with more load. Super beneficial to the moped crowd. There are benefits and negatives to it for sure. I wouldn't go out and buy it and replace my drivetrain but if it comes on a build with the components I want, I'm ok with it.
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Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
Actually I think it’s less relevant than you’d expect on a “moped.” You can often soft pedal so that you aren’t mashing in the same way you’d have to on a pedal bike when you get caught in the wrong gear. I expected the same added relevance and while it’s certainly helpful, I think it’s similarly advantageous on either bike.
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Jerry Willows
1 month, 1 week ago
I was just going by what Arno was saying about it.... the "e-bikes" should really be using gearbox tech and getting away from "normal" setups imo.
Morgan Heater
1 month, 1 week ago
if you're soft pedaling, but your still boosted, the derailleur is seeing the boosted load though, right?
Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
That makes sense to me as well Morgan but it doesn’t feel like that. Almost like the motor feels some resistance and clutches a little - unless the rider applies more pressure?
Kos
1 month, 1 week ago
Right?! I pored over every detail, yet I’ve built up two new rides this year, and went to significant effort to avoid Transmission on both.
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AndrewR
1 month, 1 week ago
Interesting I have been on AXS since early 2019 (having first seen it on Jerome Clementz's bike at the 2018 Trans-Madeira) and other than my bike packing fat bike (and mainly due to extreme cold rather than charging challenges) I have AXS on everything, which now includes four bikes with Transmission drive trains. And when the mechanical Transmission RD becomes available I'll install that on the fat bike.
The lighter shifting (especially with the original shifters (modified rocker paddle) and Rocker pod (I think that the pods are a retrograde step from a shifting ergonomics point of view), the terminator like determination to shift gear and the ease of set up (with Transmission, not Eagle as it had very narrow b-tension tolerances). Also the gear steps of 52-44-38-32 for the "are we there yet" part of mountain biking rather than the older 52-42-36-32 is actually the 'game changer' aspect for me essentially allowing either easier climbing in the same size chain ring or the ability to run a slightly larger chain ring.
There has also been a significant increase in durability/ longevity with the new system. With Eagle the OE alloy chain rings were good for 800-1000 km and I am currently at 1100 km on the T-Type chain ring on my Sight VLT (which is my "can you kill Transmission" test bike) and it still looks close to new. The GX level cassette is barely worn and the GX grade chain won't even accept the tip of the Pedros Chain checker II tool used to check chain wear. I have got 3500 km out of an XX1 Eagle chain and I can see XX Flat top chains easily making the 5000 km point. I can't recall wearing out an XO or XX level cassette in the last five years.
I honestly believe that SRAM's claim about sustainability is a real goal rather than the green washing that a lot of companies trot out.
To everyone who asks "what about the batteries?" my reply is "when was the last time you went anywhere (serious) without an 80% charged phone?". I know that there are people that can't keep a phone charged but they are the same people that can't clean a chain after a ride or fix a flat tyre (or use a torque wrench when working on their bikes) , however I sometimes meet them when I am guiding (and they are the reason that guides have to carry so much stuff in their pack) so I know that they exit. And yes you can do a four day Chilcotin trip on one set of AXS batteries (although I would recommend packing a spare if you ever become an AXS user) even with your bike left leant against the cabin in sub zero temperatures overnight, and still shift all the way to the lodge for that forsty cold one and a tasty burger.
Horses for course and I am never going to bash on mechanical (or other brands) and will happily discuss where AXS could be better but the system as a whole is a game changer in the same way that sticky tyres (that stay inflated for a whole ride), disc brakes and dropper posts make biking in 2024 a whole lot better than it was in 1993.
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TomM
1 month, 1 week ago
I just replaced my GX T-Type chain and discovered that my Topeak chain breaker didn't work with the T-Type chain. Apparently only certain chain breakers are compatible? I resorted to a small socket, a punch, and a big hammer to knock the pin out.
Here is SRAMs list of compatible chain tools. I'd guess that others will work that aren't on that list but my Topeak did not. https://www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/compatibility-map/road/sram-eagle-flattop-and-11-speed-chain-compatible-tools.pdf
Great article as usual. I wish that I had it when I set up my drivetrain last year. I muddled through it but this would definitely have saved me some time.
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Cr4w
1 month, 1 week ago
Wow that's good to know.
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Kos
1 month, 1 week ago
MONEY! Really well done article, Cam. Should I ever make the jump to overpriced, overweight, no-carbon-crank XO1 T-Type, this is where I will come, as I am another lover of printed directions with photos.
But, easier than installing a cable-actuated RD seems a bit of a stretch. :-)
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Kyle Dixon
1 month, 1 week ago
Cam wrote this, Andrew is over on Meat Engines ;)
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Jotegir
1 month, 1 week ago
Camdrew McMajor
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Kos
1 month, 1 week ago
Fixed, thanks! Sorry, Cam!
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Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
No worries! I’ve been called worse. Lol
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Shoreboy
1 month, 1 week ago
I understand we are all very familiar with installing cable actuated rear derailleurs at this point, but to say this is easier seems suspicious to me as well. I do applaud the step by step instructions however, as they will be useful for the future.
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Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
There are a lot of things you don't have to worry about here, and far fewer judgement calls and measurements. Chain length is decided for you, there is no cable to worry about either stringing (internally likely) or tensioning (and then re-tensioning when it stretches), no housing to cut, there are no limit or screws or b-tension, no bent hangers and no need to check one, and (compared to SRAM only) no funny b-tension tool to futz with.
Once your chain is set, along with your Setup Cog and Setup Key, it's pretty much just pulling back on the lower jockey wheel and torquing the mount bolt. Obviously there are lots of advantages to cable systems but this was in reference to setting up and getting a good shifting result with very little pissing around and not much time.
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Cr4w
1 month, 1 week ago
I think installing a cable derailleur is as fraught with little caveats as this is but we've all been doing it for so long that we've internalized them all. If you had to write a manual for someone with zero experience to install a cable derailleur from scratch it would have to equally detailed to cover all the necessary info.
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Matt Cusanelli
1 month, 1 week ago
This right here. If you were to spend the next ten years tinkering with exclusively T-Type AXS product it would certainly become as intuitive as installing a cable derailleur. If I was to write an article about a mechanical derailleur installation that encompassed attaching it to the hanger, hanger install and alignment, chain length, b tension, limits, cable installation, cable stretching, cable adjustment it would look super intimidating to someone that has never done it before. Five years ago I had no idea how to adjust a mechanical derailleur.
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[email protected]
1 month, 1 week ago
As a T-type user, tinker and someone thag does 98% of all their own mech/service work, SRAM T-type Transmission is awesome! Works extremely well, I shift constantly while riding without any thought, shifting is very "easy" push and shift, under load works very well, bails me out of "oh wrong gear" and it just works.
The battery charging argument is nonsense, lasts forever. Durability is excellent. Setup is really a breaze. It seems like many steps but once you have done it twice its a non issue.
Price is an issue. It is expensive. But this ain't a cheap sport after all.
As always excellent article.
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Andy Eunson
1 month, 1 week ago
I really appreciate these articles. It’s one thing to read the SRAM or who ever instructions but actual experience is always better. There appear to be many steps but it actually looks simple once you’ve done it. Pointing out potential pitfalls, excellent pictures, if I ever need to do this I’ll come here for the article.
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Heinous
1 month, 1 week ago
Worth noting that it's a known issue that the microadjust doesn't always allow sufficient adjustment. The first firmware update SRAM did wsa to address this, but still doesn't always work. It can max out (14) outboard and still rub inboard sprockets.
I have my own theories as to why, but it's helpful to share so people don't go tearing their hair out at set up.
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Tim (aka DigitBikes/DirtBaggies)
1 month, 1 week ago
Could it be that you need a spacer behind your cassette?: sram.com/en/service/articles/sram-xd-and-xdr-driver-body-explained The spacer is 1.85mm whereas +/-7 clicks of microadjust is only +/-1.4mm.
I don't think I've ever needed to use the microadjust when installing new parts (both T-type and UDH AXS).
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Heinous
1 month, 1 week ago
Nope, it's a standard CK XD driver. Have measured relevant measurements (frame, hub). A contact as SRAM NA confirmed the first firmware update was to fix the issue but it doesn't always work.
The transmission derailleur overshifts to move chain and then re-centres over sprocket (like Di2), but the one I had had a few mm extra outboard play even when over shifting outward, so I'm guessing it's a pivot construction, motor, or motor mounting issue.
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[email protected]
1 month, 1 week ago
I have a similar issue only in the lsst (smallest) cogs. I think it might be my chainline. Sram instructs to use a 3mm and 5mm spacer. I have been toying with the idea of using a 4mm spacer instead of 5 to see if that helps.
What were your theories?
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hongeorge
1 month, 1 week ago
Nice timing, have a transmission setup in the shed, ready to fit
This is more usable for me than SRAM's sequence of videos, nice work
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Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
SRAM also has a useful guide that I consulted (and likely plagiarized some!) that is in print.
It’s like a PDF so there’s a topic list in the menu on the top right so you don’t have to scroll all the way through.
It goes through installing cranks and pairing and how to use the app etc. It’s very thorough
Eagle Transmission Manual
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hongeorge
1 month, 1 week ago
Just to add, I followed your guide just now, and my lines all aligned, and my bike shifts perfectly. I'll take this process over limit screws any day of the week.
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Tim (aka DigitBikes/DirtBaggies)
1 month, 1 week ago
Have you been happy with the ergonomics of the pods, Cam?
Guidance with set up of those would be helpful. Though I understand that individual tastes vary, my remedy has been to take the pod off and install the old shifter with the gen 2 rocker paddle.
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Cam McRae
1 month, 1 week ago
I do like the pods Tim but I can't use them well without the dedicated clamp because I mount my brake levers quite close to level and that puts the shifter too far under the bar.
The rocker that has been added to the pods is a huge improvement though. It's probably the most intuitive shifter interface I have used. It takes no time to get used to it and clicks are well defined but require less thumb effort because the rocker provides more leverage. I don't mind the gen 2 on the old shifter but for me this is miles better.
What isn't clear to me is whether a new rocker can be purchased as a retrofit. I can only find it as a complete shifter with a pod. I found one online store advertising it (32 USD) but they are out of stock.
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Andeh
1 month, 1 week ago
You can get the rocker upgrades (just the rocker button) in the US for as low as $20. After you remove the pod from whichever clamp/bridge you run, the button cap just pops off and you click on the new piece with no tools required. I tried it and prefer the original pod 2-button design for reduced bulk.
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Tim (aka DigitBikes/DirtBaggies)
1 month, 1 week ago
I believe the new pod rocker will be available as an upgrade. Maybe I should give them more than a parking lot test.
It's Sram pn: 11.3018.037.000
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AndrewR
1 month, 1 week ago
They rock
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Cooper Quinn
1 month, 1 week ago
As a trigger finger shifting enthusiast, this is my personal preference for controllers, too.
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AndrewR
1 month, 1 week ago
This shifter with a (dremel) modified paddle is the lightest and most ergonomic shifting. Rocker pod off an Infinity Clamp is the second best.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIPPcyoH8C2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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XXX_er
1 month, 1 week ago
Looks like a good artical ( I think ) I don't have one so NO idea how good your instructions are but if T type came on something i buy well then I would need it
there are alot of things we take for granted from years of instaling wire controled ders so while this seems like a lot of info to absorb its probably not that bad
back in another life doing the HW someone would write instructions for an upgrade and then they were given to someone to try, it would be timed cuz time is money so often there were re-writes cuz what did buddy really mean here? if it was very complex what we found was that usually the best thing to do is call it a project and let the same guy do all the upgrades at a customer
kind of like taking it to a shop i supose
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