
FIRST Impressions
Fox's new Trail Fork Family: the 36 & 36 SL
A Couple of new Fox 36s
The 36 has been in the Fox line up for over two decades now. Remember the Brown 36 TALAS RC2? Oh my goodness that was a vibe. It was a thing of beauty and lured people with the 110-150mm travel adjustment that lost inches as the days went by. It wasn't a particularly well-engineered product, but at the time it was a game-changer in heavy hitter, single crown forks along with the Marzocchi Z1 FR1. During the last 20 years, Fox has put a lot of effort and thought into making the 36 better. Until about 3-4 years ago, it still did triple duty, covering all the bases from dirt jumping to long travel trail riding. Lighter riders still covet the elusive 170mm 36s that are no longer available.
When a product has to cover all those genres, it has to compromise somewhere. To give credit where it's due, the 36 did very well in the long travel category until the 38 took some of that heavy-hitting brunt off. Enter the new Fox 36 and 36 SL models, to split the platform's duties even further.

Hawes Valley, AZ is a prime desert riding location to test little bikes with longer legs.
Splitting 36: One Name, Two Distinct Forks
For 2025, the 36 naming separates into two travel and use case categories. The Fox 36 SL which I have been riding for the last month and the All Mountain 36 which I do not have any valuable time on, but hope to have soon. The 36 SL aimed at shorter travel bikes, and that chassis is offered in 120, 130 and 140mm travels. I have been riding the 140mm Factory with Grip X damper on the Scor 2030. Prior to the 36 SL, the sneaky fast Scor had seen a couple of generations of RockShox's Pike and a Fox 34 - I ran a back-to-back test with two of those forks.
The takeaway from that testing was that while the 34 was a lighter, snappier performer with its Kashima stanchions and Grip X damper, the Pike with the Charger 3.1 damper was stiffer on the corners and did slightly better in controlling the bumps on the short travel trail bike, though it was heavier than the outgoing 34. Yes, the 34 as we know it is now gone making way for the 34SL which is optimized for XC racing. Replacing the 34 is the 36 SL. I think we have something special here.

The 36's new CSU (Crown Steerer Unit) is stiffer and hopefully less creaky.

The new Fox 36 SL is a gorgeous looking fork in Gloss Black.
What's New with the Fox 36?
Apart from the 34mm stanchions now measuring 36mm for a fork serving the same riding category, the chassis is entirely new for both the 36 and 36 SL. The design of the lowers removed all unnecessary material from the arches for a lighter, stiffer and, in my opinion, a better looking fork. The 36 SL now covers the 120 to 140mm travel category while the 36 AM will come in 140, 150 and 160mm travel lengths. While they may look the same from a difference, the two 36 models use different crowns and lowers, and have a minor difference in air shafts. As you'd guess from the name, 36mm stanchions are the same for both forks.
The new 36 SL weighs 1,755g (3.86lbs) compared to 1,743g for the outgoing Fox 34.
The 36 SL is a 29" only fork while the 36 will be offered in 27.5 and 29" options in both 37 and 44mm rake options for 27.5 and 44mm for 29" version.

The design of the lowers makes the new 36 SL 20% stiffer than the 34.
Float Glidecore
Fox's new Float Glidecore technology now suspends the airshaft on flexible upper and lower O-rings in the stanchions. While I forgot to grab a photo of this at the presentation, it is a system designed to allow the airshaft to flex with the lowers to prevent binding in more demanding load situations. The result is a smoother air spring and less friction on hard cornering or rougher trails. The 36 SL does feel smoother both off the top and towards the end of the travel. I have noticed the effects of the stiffer chassis and Glidecore on my test sample. I imagine all the little improvements have been adding up to a bigger difference in trail feel compared to the outgoing 34. The 20mm increase in bushing overlap is also a contributing factor to the stiffer and smoother feel of the new 36 SL. On the 36 the bushing overlap is 30mm bigger.

The air spring shaft now runs on flexible cushioning to prevent binding in demanding angles

You can see the flex on the upper O-rings in this illustration provided by Fox.
The lowers being an all new design, there are other changes to the things we were once familiar with. The air bleed valves are now lower in profile and do not need to support the mudguards. The mudguards/fenders now are offered In both short and long versions and fit both the 36 SL and the 36 without having to remove the bleed ports. The new design is sleek and less prone to breaking on shuttle pads or wheel cradle bike racks. Also new on both 36s is the switch to the Shimano cassette tool to remove the air spring top cap. I am not sure how I feel about this. The previous hex cap worked really well for handy mechanics or any one who has Knipex pliers handy. The new design requires a non-guide pin Shimano cassette tool and I don't have one. I guess I need to go buy a new tool. Great!
The brake mounting specs are slightly different again with the new 36 SL and 36. While the 36 SL gets 180mm native mounting on the lowers with a 203mm max rotor size, the 36 gets 200mm native rotor size with the option to go up to 230mm.

I don't have a fender photo of my own, because I don't have a fender of my own...yet
Fox 36 Specs
- Wheel Size: 29, 27.5
- Travel: 140mm, 150mm, 160mm
- Rake: 37mm, 44mm (27.5”); 44mm (29”)
- Axle: Kabolt, 15QR on Performance Series
- Rotor Size: Direct Mount 200, up to 230
- Air Spring: FLOAT EVOL Compliant
- Steerer: 1.5” Tapered
- Starting Weight: 1920g (29” 160mm GRIP X)
Fox 36 SL Tech Specs
- Wheel Size: 29
- Travel: 120mm, 130mm, 140mm
- Rake: 44mm offset
- Axle: Kabolt SL
- Rotor Size: Direct Mount 180, up to 203
- Air Spring: FLOAT EVOL Compliant
- Steerer: 1.5” Tapered
- Starting Weight: 1755g (29” 140mm GRIP X)
On the Trail
After Fox installed the 36 SL on my bike in Scottsdale, I spent the following week riding in the area and back on the North Shore in very favourable conditions. The trails in Arizona were slippery with sand and full of square-edged impacts. The lightweight 36 SL did extremely well on Sedona's rocky trails. There were no hesitations pulling for optional gaps and drops with the air spring set to 75psi and the Grip X damper closed most of the way. Back on home soil, the traction was noticeably better than in Arizona. With dirt at the right moisture levels and the roots clear of mud, It was easier to push the bike to higher speeds on trails like Ned's and Paul's. The airspring did a great job holding me up except for one or two miscalculated landings. With the Scor often overshooting jumps, I have landed to flat more than I would like to admit. This effort found the bottom of the travel on the fork with an ugly "clang!". Installing another volume spacer or increasing the air pressure in the system to 77-78psi might do the trick. The fork feels comfortable enough that I am not worried about small bump sensitivity just yet. I will most definitely experiment further.

Just below White Line, Hogs provides plenty of opportunities for exposure, chunk and clunk... the 36 SL did very well.
Verdict
While part of me is pleased with the existence of a dual 36 platform that caters to the shredcountry bike category that prioritizes performance and weight savings, I am left thinking "what am I missing without the 36 on the little bike?" Should they have named the 36 SL differently to separate it further from the 36? Ultimately, more time on a variety of surfaces is needed for a concrete opinion.
The weather has been exceptionally wet lately, so there hasn't been a ton of 36 SL time available. But one thing is certain, the 36 SL has been performing better in every way than the 34 I had previously on the Scor 2030. The synergy between the chassis, air spring and damper leads to a more refined ride compared to the flexy and more nervous nature of the old 34. The results are closer to the way the Pike Ultimate 3.1 performs on the bike, but at a much lower chassis weight. This is a welcome change. The Fox 36 SL looks good and works great so far. I am looking forward to putting more miles on the bike this spring to get ready for the season ahead.
Fox 36: 749 - 1199 USD / 999 - 1,599 CAD / 999 - 1,609 EUR / 1,299 - 2,099 AUS
Fox 36 SL: 699 - 1,149 USD / 939-1,539 CAD /939 - €1,539 EUR / 1,199-1,999 AUS

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Comments
Jotegir
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Is it just me or is this new SL demarcation the start of product line fatigue from Fox? We now have, in "Factory" editions alone:
- adventure forks (AWL/TC)
-32 SC
-34 SL GRIP SL (lol)
-34 SL Grip X
- 36 SL Grip X
- 36 Grip X
- 36 Grip X2
- 36 EMTB Grip x
-36 EMTB Grip x2
-38 Grip X2 (38 SL when?)
-38 EMTB Grip X2
-40 Grip X2.
Not to mention Performance Elite versions (whether available aftermarket or not) of all of the above, plus performance and rhythm in some. Speaking of rhythm, the "regular" 34 is probably going to survive for a few more years as a rhythm and performance spec fork, but the above list is factory only. Seems like a lot of SKUs to me!
Plus I wonder what one can bash together. You could already make 120mm 36s with a little bit of finagling, and it looks like Fox has got you covered from the factory there. Longer uppers to make big travel SL forks (as mentioned above)? Previous MY Grip2 dampers in 34 SL chassis? Fox is usually really good about maintaining compatibility, intentional or not, and I can't imagine this is a big departure - they don't want to make even more internal SKUs than they have to.
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Velocipedestrian
3 weeks, 1 day ago
My question is can the new air spring be retrofitted to an older 36? Though as an owner of one of those 'coveted' 170mm units I guess I'd be trading 10mm for the reduction in friction.
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SilentG
3 weeks, 1 day ago
There is someone on the sun faded red site that says they work for Fox and you can run a MY21 and forward air spring in the new 36.
In theory that would mean you could do the opposite.
In looking at the 2025 and 2021 air springs on the Fox site they have a 1.287 bore air spring that is listed under each so a qualified - I'm not an expert and I don't play one on TV, side effects may include dizziness and drowsiness - yes I think.
No info on MY26 on the site, a placeholder to toggle it on/off but no actual info though.
Kind of bummed that the 36 doesn't go up to 170mm as maybe not everyone wants to use a 38 for that, same thing RS did with the Lyrik.
I'm also a luddite using a 27.5 36 RC2 so make of that what you will I reckon.
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Alex D
3 weeks, 2 days ago
> The 34 SL now covers the 120 to 140mm travel category
It appears to cover 110, 120, and 130. No 140.
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Cooper Quinn
3 weeks, 2 days ago
This is correct.
-the guy with the 34SL review fork.
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Deniz Merdano
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Typo... meant to say 36SL
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Cooper Quinn
3 weeks, 1 day ago
As noted by jotegir, it's.... a little bit confusing, ha. There's a LOT of forks now.
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Timer
3 weeks ago
I read that increased bushing overlap is only a positive if the tolerances are sufficiently tight. And I know that in the past, that usually wasn’t the case for any of the mass produced forks.
I hope this change indicates that Fox have improved their quality control, which would be very welcome for lots of reasons.
On a tangent: Are there any Canadian companies making MTB forks? If one wants to avoid the two big US brands, I only know of European and Taiwanese options (Formula, Öhlins, EXT, Intend, SR Suntour, X Fusion).
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Jotegir
3 weeks ago
I've wanted to try a Formula fork for years now so maybe this is the push I need, haha!
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earle.b
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I have one of those first 36 Talas RC2's. Bought it used for a steal many moons ago. Had a Norco 6 and I'd swap the bike from Totem and coil, to the 36 Talas with a DHX Air and lighter wheels. Didn't use the Talas travel adjust much, it was a great fork for it's time.
Can the new SL get bumped up to 160mm? I scratch my head a bit on these burly-ish 140mm trail bikes. There hasn't been much weight savings or efficiency over a well spec'd 160mm bike why not drop down to the 120mm class of true downcountry rigs. A 160mm SL fork would make for a pretty damn sweet proper trail bike.
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Deniz Merdano
3 weeks, 2 days ago
36SL can not be bumped up to 150 or 160mm. I would like to see a rouge mechanic find a loophole though.
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earle.b
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I think they would have really had something unique to brag about here if they did the SL in 160mm or travel.
The new 36 has claims now of being 87% as stiff as the 38...what is the SL version? If the new SL is equal to the old 36 in comparison to a 38 it would be a game changer in the trail bike market.
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Jotegir
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Fox has a history, despite being one of the better brands out there for public information, of giving less-than-full disclosure on what works with what. Once the 38 came out, they claimed all the 36s could no longer run 170mm travel and that simply wasn't true. They sell a 170mm 36 NA2 air spring and it fires right into any of the previous 36s from like MY2017 to 2024(5?, are these MY2026 forks?). You didn't need to do any modifications other than the air spring swap.
There's also a bunch of fairly recent bigger-than-140mm 34s out there from OEM spec bikes, but you'd never see that on the website or a claim its possible to convert aftermarket.
My assumption is that in order to achieve weight savings, the 36SL features shorter uppers that actually prevent anything longer than 140mm. If you need to change something like uppers to go up to 150 or 160mm, that's going to be a big barrier.
Edit: the new 36 SL is cool AF and I want one, but don't want to pay for it.
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Cooper Quinn
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Another publication has mentioned part of the weight savings for the 36SL over the 36 is shorter stanchions.
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Deniz Merdano
3 weeks, 1 day ago
The new 36s also have different Crowns. I think the distance between the stanchions are also different, making the upper and the lowers incompatible between 36SL and 36AM
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earle.b
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Incompatible lowers and crowns takes away the lego factor. That's not cool. Removes the fun for building a frankenfork.
Fat_Tony_NJ
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I have a ~20 year old TALAS still in use! It lives on an in-between age bike for my kids. It's an old size medium K2 Brass Monkey hardtail, 26 inch wheels, with a low seat tube, a long Salsa Shaft seat post, the TALAS, and a Syncros VRO bar/stem combo.
3 of my kids have used this as their bike for those awkward years between what they rode between ~12YO and ~ almost adult size. The tremendous adjustability sort of lets the bike grow with them. Not perfect, but not bad!
With that said, I get on the bike and the fork feels like crap compared to any modern utensil. I also recall that the other option back when I first bought it was a Psylo, and I just could not do the plastic top caps. :)
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Heinous
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Lots of permutations, but I like it. The SL looks like exactly the fork that would suit loads of trail bikes and HTs, while the floating air spring seems like a genuine improvement. I wonder if it'll retrofit to previous 36's?
The weight savings in the damper more of a compromise. I do wonder where this leaves the 32 - a special order XCO fork?
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olaa
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Have you had time to weigh the forks yet? I've had some that have been quite a bit overweight, and some that were close to specified weight. Most notably a 34 factory that was a good 150g over what Fox said (and yes, i triple-checked the spec).
A bit of extra weight isn't the end of the world, but when you are trying to build something light'ish it's nice to know where you are adding or subtracting weight.
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Deniz Merdano
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I have weighed the pike, 34 and the 36SL. I do not have a 36 AM . They were all within a few grams of advertised numbers
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Kos
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Great writeup. Lots of fork SKUs for Fox!
X damper quieter on rebound now?
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Deniz Merdano
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Significantly quieter!
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