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Fox Racing Enduro Pro Knee Guards

Photos Deniz Merdano
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Whether we're talking about helmets or body armour, Fox Racing is a trusted name in protection. In recent years, plenty of good options for knee protection have emerged, with improvements in fit being most notable. Many used inserts from ingredient brands like D30, whose non-Newtonian properties are ideal for protective gear that needs to move with your body, but stiffen and protect during an impact. Like kneepads.

Fox continues to use D30 for some of their knee pads. But not the new Enduro Pro. For those, they partnered with an unlikely ingredient brand, though it's one we're familiar with for helmets: Koroyd.

Those Inserts

Now, before you ask, the answer is that no, the Koroyd inserts in these new knee guards do not look like the top of a box of green straws. Cringe along with me at the thought of what those hard plastic impact zones would feel like squished up against our knee caps in a crash. No, for this one, Koroyd has a much more suitable insert, which is flexible and comfortable. And lime green. But, plot twist; it's not non-Newtonian. It is auxetic, which, according to Wikipedia, goes like this:

Auxetic metamaterials are a type of metamaterial with a negative Poisson's ratio, so that axial elongation causes transversal elongation (in contrast to an ordinary material, where stretching in one direction causes compression in the other direction).

Right, so who's Poisson? Glad you asked because I looked that up, too. Siméon Poisson was a French mathematician and physicist who coined the Poisson effect, which goes like this (also from Wikipedia):

The deformation (expansion or contraction) of a material in directions perpendicular to the specific direction of loading. The value of Poisson's ratio is the negative of the ratio of transverse strain to axial strain.

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The Koroyd insert that does protection duty in the new Fox Enduro Pro Knee Guards.

Let's land this plane, because once it touches down, you have a cocktail party to get to, and I'm going to leave you with at least half an Old Fashioned's worth of SmartiePants belt loops. You can see from the Koroyd insert above that those holes, which are pliable, as you'd imagine, will move with you as you pedal. Their auxetic property (aka negative Poisson ratio) means that when struck, the material won't move outwards, away from the incoming pressure, like a half dozen people stuck in an elevator, horrified that Ron had chili for lunch again. Instead, the material collapses inwards. Running to jump on the grenade, if you will.

This all seems well and good, and Koroyd has a slick website full of technical-looking images and trite language that doesn't tell us much more than that, although the animations showing how the insert moves and adapts to your knee are illustrative and I recommend you have a look, if for no other reason than to clean your palate after imagining Ron's little escapade in the elevator.

I'm confused about whether Fox's Enduro Pro Knee Guards offer CE Level 1 or 2 Protection, because Koroyd's site says both. Don't ask me to explain the difference between level 1 and 2 - if Fox or Koroyd had specified, I would have spent more time looking, but they didn't so that'll wait for a future article. Also, I haven't crashed in them. Yet. But I can say that, to my auxetic-knowing ass, the Enduro in the name of these might be a tad over-selling them unless either 1) we're talking about Enduro-fashion, so, riding a few trails on the way to a gelato stop, no crashing intended, or 2) they hit above my perception of them, in which case Fox and/or Koroyd really needs to provide better detail about how this insert works to protect your knee.

I have no doubt at all about them as Trail-level knee guards (realizing that Trail is a term with considerable breadth) but Enduro, well, that depends on how you Enduro. For my part, I've worn them on rides involving 170mm bikes and consequences and I don't feel under-gunned, but I wouldn't wear them in the bike park and expect 100% protection (which doesn't mean I still wouldn't wear them in the bike park).

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The Fox Enduro Pro Knee Guards are long, but comfortable.

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And they stay in place very well, even on long rides with lots of pedaling.

The Fit

With all of that prattling about the inserts out of the way, we're not done, because Fox has another trick up its sleeve. Which is a sleeve! You see, these knee guards have an independent sleeve for the insert, effectively suspending it and keeping it partially independent from the motion of your knees. The moment I unwrapped them, I thought: "huh, now that's new", followed immediately by: "if they fit as well as that sleeve makes them look like they'll fit, these are gonna be good". And they do, and they are.

The sleeve works, and paired with a very robust elasticized band above the knee (and a thick silicone gripper strip), Fox has made a pad that stays in place better than any other I've worn without having to strap it so tightly that it becomes uncomfortable to pedal. And in these days of wearing pants 9 months of the year, it's even more important to have knee guards that stay in place. Otherwise, you'll find yourself dropping trou at the top of the climb so you can readjust and make sure your knees are covered for the way down. Been there, did not check out the gift shop.

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The outer fabric is a durable Cordura. These should withstand multiple crashes and lots of ons and offs.

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That's a wide elasticized section and a big ol' silicone gripper section. Works extremely well.

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A good look at the sleeve that holds the Koroyd insert in a floating position, independent from the sleeve that wraps around your knee.

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Upper and lower fasteners hold the sleeve well in place.

Just One Thing

I had one other thought as soon as I pulled the Enduro Pros on for the first time. That second sleeve means there is more material wrapped around your knee. The weather hasn't allowed me to confirm this suspicion yet, but I do wonder how hot they'll be as the mercury rises. To be fair, all knee pads are hot and sweaty in the summer, so it might be no worse than average. Or, it doesn't matter if they get a C or a C minus because neither report card is being stuck to the fridge.

Deniz Says

Fox's Enduro Pro Knee Guards landed at my feet a couple of moon cycles after Pete's did. What I have found was that, similar to Pete's prediction, they do run warmer than the competition - in this case, the 100% Teratec and Fasthouse Hoopers. The comfort of the Hoopers is hard to beat, with a very thin construction, but the removable pad is the hardest material out of all three. The 15" length falls directly between the 13" Teratecs and the 17" Enduro Pros. The Fox pads are by far the most secure feeling both in fit and perceived protection.

I have crashed in all three and while I couldn't tell you the severity of the crashes in comparison, I came away with zero injuries to my knees.

What I found with the Fox Enduro Pros was that they allowed me to wear shorts on slightly colder morning starts. On a longer ride, if the temperature was too cold for just shorts but too warm for pants later on, the Fox pads bridged that gap nicely. The fit on the leg is also excellent if you like 17" worth of coverage. I think I will generally save the Fox Pads for Whistler Bike Park duties or more consequential rides. I run warm and while I love the fit of these pads, the warmth will be a deciding factor, because I am inclined to #freetheknee these days. Looking forward to wearing them more and revisiting this review mid summer.

Fox has a winner with the Enduro Pro Knee Guards. We'll check back in after riding in warmer weather with a heat and sweatiness update, hopefully no crash updates, and certainly no further mention of the incident with Ron in the elevator.

Fox Enduro Pro Knee Guards - 160 CAD / 125 USD

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+4 Pete Roggeman Andy Eunson Jotegir vunugu

Auxetic metamaterials? Negative poisson ratios? Sounds fishy to me.

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 FlipSide

Ron made it all up.

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ultimatist
+3 Andy Eunson atwork123 bushtrucker

Kneepads need to keep focusing on ventilation and comfort... these look way too hot. There are still folks riding regular MTBs up steep hills in the summer, and I hesitate to wear protection sometimes because of how hot and chafey the experience can be.

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pete@nsmb.com
+2 Jotegir ultimatist

I don't think there's a perfect knee pad for all people. There are some great light weight pads out there, including from Fox, that ventilate better but won't protect as well. I'm right with you and I think that for people that ride all year round, more than one type of pad may be necessary.

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LoamtoHome
+3 Jotegir bushtrucker ultimatist

I'm still not sure why most knee pad manufacturers don't have a piece of plastic on the knee for sliding when you go down.  Fabric just bunches up and then exposes the knee...  ask me how I know.   Love the old RaceFace Ambush pads.

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Andeh
+1 Pete Roggeman

I picked up a pair of these recently, along with the updated Launch (non-pro version, without the hardcap and just the single lower velcro band).  I've had that same issue with most sleeve type pads like the Enduro is that on higher speed sliding crashes, the sleeve tears right above the insert, so you get scraped up pretty bad anyways.  I'm not sure that a hard cap would help any - I think in most cases it would just catch on the dirt and rip the sleeve.  I'm hoping that the updated Enduro with it's floating insert resists that effect a bit.  They are very comfortable to pedal in, and are VERY long.  The length is probably good for my area to help fend off poison oak.  And as the article mentions, they are a little bit warmer than other sleeves, I think in part due to the sleeve material being a little thicker & more durable feeling than others (like the Rapha).

The updated Launch seems promising too.  No upper velcro band to irritate my hamstrings when pedaling, but keeps the lower band to (fingers crossed) hold the pad in place in a crash.

I will say that the Fox upper silicon gripper band is the absolute grippiest I've ever tried, to the point where I'd say people with sensitive skin might have issues.  I end up with hex marks on my thighs for a couple hours after wearing them.

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denomerdano
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Upper silicone is absolutely wild. I have to fold it outwards to pull up otherwise it grips too hard. Also pull my thigh hairs a little until it settles. But once it is settled, it stays put!

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pete@nsmb.com
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Plastic is hot and doesn't move with the knee as well. But I think the main thing is that this category of pad is prioritizing pedaling comfort, whereas what you describe is prioritizing impact protection, and most/many brands' DH-rated pads still have plastic caps. Those old Ambush pads were super protective but not very comfortable in my experience.

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LoamtoHome
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the plastic shell has no bearing on comfort.  The pads can also be removed without having to take your shoes off which is super nice.

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pete@nsmb.com
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Well, I heartily disagree on the first part because I owned those and they were not nearly as nice to pedal in - hotter and bulky. You're talking about a different product altogether anyway - meant for FR/DH whereas these are a trail riding pad.

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andy-eunson
+1 Jotegir

Maybe the plastic affects fit and comfort? I agree though. It seems like a hard layer would be beneficial.

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Jotegir
+1 Pete Roggeman

We need MIPS for knees.

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FlipSide
+1 ultimatist

Technically, the knee cap is not far from that!

(I'll see myself out...) ;)

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XXX_er
+1 Andy Eunson

I did wonder how you are gona test these without crashing SO IME everything fits somone but am I  that someone ? 

Its all about the fit so I needed to spend time  at the wall of pads  trying them all on,  then I have my pad,  ime if sleeve pads fit they protect, I can put em on & still be wearing up/ down/ to the craft brew, its good if the top of the sleeve covers the bottom hem of my bike shorts

I still fall off when its hot so not wearing elbow & knee pads is not an option

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denomerdano
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To add, i ordered my sample pair based on the fit guide online and it's bang on!

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rigidjunkie
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Can confirm the Fox sleeve is super comfortable. Also have not yet crashed while wearing these, but they are super comfortable to pedal in.  Last point I would make is they do not bunch up.  Every other sleeve style pad I have tried bunched behind my knee and made me hate them.

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pete@nsmb.com
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Ah, yes, that's a good point about the bunching, too. We'll see if anything changes after more use, but so far that's another element of their great fit.

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XXX_er
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Speaking to bunching I washed my pads in the automagic washer and it really messed up the  foam pads inside, I duno if they were glued togetehr but I got them straightened around and I won't do that again at least not running the washer,  So the one piece koroyd  looks like a good idea to me.  BTW if you put a hole in your padz a dab of aqua-seal or shoo goo/ cover with plastic bag till it cures makes a good fix, I often look at that fix and think "that would have hurt"

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andy-eunson
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One question I haven’t really seen asked is: do D3O and other similar pads lose effectiveness over time or crashes? I sort of think that the protection lasts as long or longer than the sleeves do. Is that correct or not? 

I have a couple pair of 7idp Sam Hill pads that are starting to deteriorate with tears and such. But I find those supremely comfortable. I recently bought a pair of Chromag which aren’t bad but I maybe bought them a bit small.

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pete@nsmb.com
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As far as I know it doesn't wear out, at least based on impacts.

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Squint
+1 Andy Eunson

The D30 pads I've used have gotten harder with time, so they get less flexible but still protective. But I've also put them in the washing machine which is apparently a no-no. 

I have seen some reference to inspection after impact, and D30's Consumer Care Instructions says "If your protector has suffered a sustained blunt impact it should be discarded and replaced." 

But generally by the time the D30 is getting hard, the pad is overall torn up or stinky enough to replace anyway.

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XXX_er
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I think if Pads are fitting and staying in place they are gona protect me. I'm a figure out what works and stick with it kind of a consumer so  I'm just finishing off my 2nd set of Dakine Slayers. The top of elastic  sleeve on the 1st pair got rather flacid  and so IMO if its not fitting perfect it ain't gona protect me. The stitching on the second set is starting to unravel at the joint, I can see wear on the outside seams, the foam is coming apart inside the pad and I did put a hole in a pad so its probably time for pair  #3 and i will probably buy dakine again, no complaints really cuz these get beat on pretty good

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PhillyT
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The pattern they're using is what provides the 'auxetic' behaviour - not the material itself I don't think. It's also interesting that the auxetic behaviour is only going to do its thing when stretch it across the knee horizontally or vertically. Compression like you would see in an impact is going to do zilch.

This really looks like marketing whoey to me....

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moraucf
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I've been experimenting lately with swapping out stock pads for some of the newer Level 2 options, specifically the SAS-TEC Phantom Tripleflex, D3O Diablo, and alpinestars nucleon plasma for back.

These pads are impressively thin, comfortable, and breathable. When you combine that with the significantly higher protection of Level 2, it really seems like a no-brainer upgrade. It's just a bit frustrating that there aren't more options readily available in the MTB market that come with pads like these.

I did check out these koroyd pads at sea otter and they confirmed they are only level 1.

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mark-f
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Never mind the knee pads , how about those socks..:)

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XXX_er
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The bike club includes a pair of  club monogramed  sock-guy socks with every membership, the gal choosing colors speced  the Santa Cruz Lavender becuz women love that color SO my my socks match my Bullit perfectly ... every girls crazy bout a sharp dressed man

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Hbar
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Very disappointed that there are no Deniz pictures of this auxetic material being stretched, preferably with a ruler in the background…

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