Mano a Mano Review
Fasthouse Hooper & Ion K-Lite Kneepads
Yesterday, I was at the trailhead with a couple of veterans of the Sport and the Shore. We were trying to find parking to drop into a one of the lesser known trails. The trailhead was busy and there was one last spot to back our TRD Pro Tundra into and attempt avoid any unwanted attention to drop into an even lesser known trail. We had all the markings of a crew that would blend in at trailheads all across the continent. The truck, the bikes, the monochromatic outfits, lightweight kneepads, the whole nine yards. There was a buzz of people around us getting ready to drop into one of the more tracked and mellow routes. The rituals these people were going through were slightly different than ours. There was an excess of concern and faffing going on. As the observer I am, I noticed a common denominator on these folk getting ready to "shred" the Shore if you will.
Hardshell armour!
The white plastic, velcro-strapped, gladiator monstrosities looked like a sea of Shredders dropping into the NYC sewage tunnels to fight the Turtles. Knowing I had some riding and hiking on the plate for the day, I couldn't help but feel bad for this uncomfortable looking fashion show.
I don't mean to belittle anyone because of their perception of safety and the daily responsibilities that may require such precautions to be taken. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I've never seen Cooper Quinn wear anything more than thin shorts while rocking bare knees even in the middle of winter, riding gnarly-ass trails. He is a man of comfort and he doesn't set out riding expecting to crash,* so why bother with protection? I admire that approach but it's a little out of my comfort zone unless the ride calls for it. I will set out with bare knees if the ride is of XC nature or the weather is very hot, or I if I've forgotten my kneepads. Otherwise I've been wearing The Hooper from Fasthouse or Ion K-Lites all summer.
*Is that what the rest of us do? -Ed.
Fasthouse The Hooper Kneepads
Designed by the man who is responsible for one of the deadliest flat pedals, Tyler McCaul, the Hooper knee-shin pads from Fasthouse are a slim and long approach to protection. No velcro in sight on this sleeve-like design. Retention becomes even more important when you can't adjust the fit for a size range. With a 19" thigh girth certificate, I tried both the Medium and a Large before settling on M for optimum retention.
There was no choking on the upper cuff and behind the knee felt unbothered by the well-ventilated flexible mesh material. My go-to pads before the Hooper were 7iDP Sam Hills that are also long in construction for extensive coverage. What the 7iDPs lacked in shin protection, the Hooper definitely made up. The Hooper has a removable shin pad for throwing the pads in the wash which is what you should do every now and again apparently. The minimal fabric around the back of the pads allows knee-pit perspiration to evaporate nicely. I never once thought the pads were suffocating me or causing excess sweat. There were times I left them on for 8+ hours and completely forgot they were there. That is the highest praise I can give a kneepad, apart from saving my ba-con in a crash.
The Hoopers stay put quite well in all weather conditions. The length helps with this but unlike my 7iDPs, that are equal length, the Hoopers have a more effective silicone traction pad that locks them to your thighs. All this 'stay put business' made me worry that I'd have a hell of a time removing them after a ride but I was surprised to easily slide them off my leg without having to peel. Great coverage, great retention and does not smell like death after a sweaty summer ride. Fasthouse did their homework right and came up with pads I would even place into our worth every penny column, which means I will head to my local shop and buy a backup pair soon.
The Fasthouse logo is peeling off which is unfortunate because it makes the pads look cheap. There is no damage to the fabric behind them however. It could be all the washing or some abrasion that caused them to separate. This wasn't a deal breaker for me.
100 USD/130 CAD
Ion Bike K-Lite Kneepads
Ion's K-Lite Kneepads are slightly different in construction and intended use compared to the Hoopers. These are less of an all day pedal trail, more of an Enduro oriented kneepad. Whenever I see the Enduro as an intended use, I think of people pedaling up paved or fire roads. Perhaps people who like to slide their pads to their ankles for the climbs and pull them back up for the descends. This wouldn't be too far off the mark for the Ion's K-Lite pads. Heavier duty in construction compared to the Fasthouse Hoopers, there is more padding on the sides of the knees. Some people will appreciate the protection from the bike itself with these little pads of safety. Attention to detail is incredible with these K-Lites and the construction of the pad seems to back that up. Stitching is burly and the velcro strap system is designed to last a couple of seasons at least. I like the rounded corners of the velcro tabs; these are generally sharp and dig into your skin on other pads I've encountered. The lower velcro also runs through a loop with clear piping for buffer and bearing-like smoothness when pulled on.
The Enduro-certified removable inner pad has great shape and articulation,. But no matter how I adjusted it, I couldn't get the K-Lites to feel as comfortable as the Hoopers. On riskier rides, I did reach for the K-Lites for added knee protection knowing that I sacrificed some shin coverage. Unless I was on an E-bike, I didn't love pedaling with the Ion pads for extended periods of time.
After months of use, there doesn't seem to be much evidence of wear. They have successfully been through the wash a few times but I am more hesitant to toss them in due to the velcro construction. I hate it when socks and gloves get destroyed by velcro in the wash so I laundered these a little less than usual. They run warmer than the Hoopers and they retained a little more stink with all the perspiration.
I did appreciate the burliness of these pads on couple of occasions when I decided to leave my bike and ride the trail with my body. Sore body was all I had to deal with; no cuts or abrasion on knees.
110 EUR/150 CAD
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Cooper Quinn
2 years, 3 months ago
#freetheknee
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Perry Schebel
2 years, 3 months ago
amen
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Niels van Kampenhout
2 years, 3 months ago
My 'free the knee' phase did not end well.
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Perry Schebel
2 years, 3 months ago
it's all good until it isn't. i haven't slipped on pads this year; surely dooming myself to carnage now.
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IslandLife
2 years, 3 months ago
Man, that's nuts! I think people forget that, because we (well most of us) wear knee pads so often... how much they actually protect you from little to big impacts during minor and major offs.
What scares the shit out of me is, if I was to #freetheknee, all it takes is one fairly innocuous off bike excursion could totally blow your knee to smithereens. Then you're just fucked. All for the sake of a little inconvenience?
I feel like I'll be reading a guest article from you somewhere down the line titled "Don't Be Me - how my hubris led to me having to give up mountain biking.... aka - Wheelchair basketball is a poor substitute for mountain biking". Feel free to use that... it's a little wordy but I'm sure you can fix it up when the time comes.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
That was a little strong...
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IslandLife
2 years, 3 months ago
I was laughing when I wrote it... but maybe my dry, dark sense of humour doesn't come across well in this format, ha.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
I didn't say i wasn't laughing...
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Ripbro
2 years, 3 months ago
Ive tried many highly rated pedal friendly knee pads (ixs flow, sam hill, chromag rift, leatt airflex) and Im still on the hunt for something that disappears. leatt airflex has been the best so far, but not perfect. The fasthouse might be worth a shot. I find a lot of options too short at the thigh, and having something with more of a long sleeve might work better
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IslandLife
2 years, 3 months ago
What were your thoughts on the Chromag Rift?
I've been running Raceface Indy's for a couple seasons and while they seem to be that magical disappearing, pedal friendly pad for me... I've had a couple minor crashes where I wished for just a little more protection around the edges like the rifts have... otherwise they protected me well though. At the same time, I don't want to give up how great my current pads feel/pedal/stay put.
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Carl Herbst
2 years, 3 months ago
I tried the Leatt Airflex this summer, but ended up going back to my Rifts from last year. Still the most comfortable "forgettable" knee pads to date, even though they technically are a bit warmer than the Leatts but yeah, still worth their added comfort (and protection for that matter)
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Ripbro
2 years, 3 months ago
The top cuff would slip down over time….
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Morgan Heater
2 years, 3 months ago
I've gone the opposite direction, something that's super burly, but doesn't have a sleeve so it's easy to take on/off.
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Mammal
2 years, 3 months ago
Zip-ons for me. Strap them around my bars for the climb, and just put them on at the top. They're comfy enough to leave on for shorter transfers, smaller climbs etc...
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Nologo
2 years, 3 months ago
I'm on airflex for past 6 months, after 2 generations of trailskins. Huge downgrade from Dainese in both comfort and protection.
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NewGuy
2 years, 3 months ago
I wash my knee pads after every ride, the trick is to steal your wife's 'delicates' wash bag and throw the pads inside.
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kcy4130
2 years, 3 months ago
I'd hate to have my knee pad stench transferred to my wife's... nevermind, just forget I mentioned it.
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IslandLife
2 years, 3 months ago
haha... we're all thinking it, but you... almost said it!
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
Between my mountain biking partner and I, we'll see who kills the washing machine first this winter.
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cheapondirt
2 years, 3 months ago
If Hoopers replaced Sam Hills as your go-to, they're definitely on my list for next time. I have the same experience with the latter: 99% awesome, occasional sliding down.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
Worth a visit to the shop to try on a pair!
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Sandy James Oates
2 years, 3 months ago
The Ion k-lite is so comfortable I wear then all the time on the bike. They stay in place without any movement. I have weak knees and they actually feel like they give my knees some support.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
They are comfortable.. just not as much as the Hoopers. They stay put and instill confidence for sure.
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AverageAdventurer
2 years, 3 months ago
I scooped up a pair of hoopers this year and have a similar sentiment. I totally forget I'm wearing them. They're also ce level 2 pads in a crazy slim form factor. Appreciate the extra length as well.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
Loving them so far. Glad you share my sentiments
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chacou
2 years, 3 months ago
Have two pair, Sam Hill when wearing shorts, Fox Enduro when wearing pants. I find that both stay up just fine and no need for velcro straps. The Fasthouse look nice, might have to check them out when the time is right.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
My sam hills slide down ever so slightly on longer days unless i pull the bottom cuff over my calves. Small price to pay for comfort
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chacou
2 years, 3 months ago
My only minor gripe about the SH is they're a bit bulky and can get hot.
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XXX_er
2 years, 3 months ago
on my second pair of Dakine slayer, they have been redesigned and work even better,
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
Slayers are great. I know a few people who lived theirs but they eventually bagged out sooner than other pads
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danielshiels
2 years, 3 months ago
Sure it's a fit thing with pads, I've tried a few through the years that have been reviewed well with no success but settled on ion kpact and they're really comfortable, have been great when I've been ejected and are really well made. Used for the last 3 years and wash as new. If they fit you well I'd highly recommend them
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Timer
2 years, 3 months ago
I was quite surprised to see the K-lites in this article described as heavier enduro pads. Thats what the K-Pacts are for, right? The K-lites are my small, limited protection, comfy, pedal-all-day kind of pads.
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Deniz Merdano
2 years, 3 months ago
They are definitely thicker and stiffer than the Hoopers. Also they are described as such on the ion's website.
Enduro riding is pedalling around all day isn't it?
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