Review
A Tale of Three Flat Pedal Shoes (from Northwave)
This little fiasco began with a pair of winter mountain bike shoes, which are a dime a dozen.What was unusual is that these were designed for flat pedals. Unfortunately, I was quite sure they were going to suck. They were too stiff, the rubber wasn't very sticky, and I wasn't sure about the shape either. Despite these seemingly fatal flaws, they didn't suck at all. In fact they are some of the best flat pedal shoes I've worn.* The grip is excellent, I can easily reposition my feet, and they were sturdy and well built. In fact, I continued riding them long after the frost was gone because I wasn't ready to put them away for 8 months. Then a fever took hold.
*An exception is that Northwave's Multi Cross GTX winter shoes don't work as well with pedals that that are convex, particularly when the ball of your foot is over the spindle, because the rocker doesn't flatten very much under your weight
If you have ridden flats for many years you may be able to relate to my obsession with finding the right shoes. Once I source a and begin wearing a pair that meets my criteria, and they are slowly (hopefully) wearing out with every ride, the need to secure the next pair feels mission critical. After enduring mediocre and downright shit shoes for many years, once the holy grail has been located, its source must be secured.
What I'm getting it is that I wanted the summer version of these excellent shoes, and Northwave made a summer Multicross that looks identical to the GTX version. The problem was, Northwave had discontinued them. They had some in stock but were unwilling to send me a pair to test. Northwave wouldn't even let me buy some directly. They were moving on and these shoes were no longer in the plan. I found some online, even on sale, but not in my size. Finally I sleuthed a pair on sale but the sizes were listed differently (because I was in Canada I could only see Canadian/US sizing and I knew my size in Euro sizes, and the conversion can vary) and there was no way to contact a human. I even tried to find some in Italy (where Northwave resides) on a trip with my wife to no avail. Eventually a pair in my size came up on Northwave's e-commerce site and I paid a hefty price and hefty shipping. Then, when they arrived there were duties and taxes added. In the end I paid just shy of 300 CAD to find out if these were the summer version of my Holy Grail winter shoes.
In the meantime the new model arrived, the Crossland Plus, with a different sole and a mid foot arch in the outsole. Normally I would have dismissed these out of hand but these were from the makers of the Multi-Cross GTX! The photos on the Northwave site shoe someone wearing the Crossland Plus while riding an e-gravel bike on the road despite them being listed as mountain bike shoes. I reserved my judgement, twisted their off-brand Boa-style fasteners and went for a ride.
There are a couple of problems with an arch in the sole of a flat pedal shoe. For one, it limits your foot position, particularly for those of us who position the ball of our foot slightly behind the pedal spindle when descending. The other issue is that if your foot slips at all, your pedal no longer has anything to dig into. This can (and did) result in your foot rolling off the front of the pedal. If you have had this happen, you likely know this can result in the pins of your pedal slicing through the soft flesh of your calf. And I experienced this result. Luckily I wasn't riding on 3mm pins or some needlework would have been mandatory.
These aforementioned winter shoes seemed all wrong but managed to be very right, which made me wonder if it was a fluke. Was this was a case of flat shoes being designed by someone who rides only clipped in or, god-forbid, only road? After my experience with the "new" shoes that were completely unredeemable, I began to suspect this was the case, but I was holding out hope for the summer version of the Multicross. If they turned out to be great it would be bitter sweet since they'd been discontinued, and if they weren't great, what the hell is going on here?
I laced them up with equal parts trepidation and optimism and headed out from home. Obviously the benchmark I was hoping to reach was very high, since the Multi-Cross GTX are some of the best performing flat pedal shoes I have ridden, but since the outsoles were identical (both made by Vibram) there was reason to hope.
The outsoles weren't completely identical actually, since these were gum rubber and the winter model came with a black outsole, but otherwise every fin and contour was the same. I'd asked another manufacturer about the impact of dyes on flat pedal soles and they told me it was negligible at most, so the rubber could be trusted. These were lace up shoes, which was absolutely fine and they have some excellent venting for warm weather use. Because of this lateral venting they lack descent protection on the sides but the heel and tow are well protected.
Unlike the Crossland Plus, the summer version of the Multicross works relatively well. They have decent grip and if you are a rider who likes shoes in that range, they might be fine for you. My sweet spot is a nebulous zone between most shoes and the all time, sit-to-reposition tackiness of most Fivetens. The shoes I've found that best reflect my hyper-pickiness are Specialized 2FOs and Fox's Unions. The Crossland Plus are well below that mark in terms of pedal retention. For my standards they are what I'd call serviceable. So what the hell is going on here? Why are the seemingly identical winter soles so good on one shoe and so mediocre (for my taste) on the summer shoes?
The solution seems to have nothing to do with the outsole and everything to do with the shank/mid sole. The winter shoes are very stiff. As mentioned earlier, I assumed they would be shit because of this. The theory I've been percolating is that the combination of a moderately sticky sole and a stiff shoe can hit the sweet spot. Because the sole is stiff each pin gets similar traction and the rubber sole deflects less when a force is exerted either vertically or laterally. The special sauce may be that, because the outsole is only moderately sticky, it's easy to reposition your foot but when you have weight on your foot, rubber deflects less and your weight is more evenly distributed. If you happen work on designing flat pedal shoes, give the Northwave Multicross+ GTX a try. And then make something similar. Or, better yet, make some yourself. Please. This combination delivers many of the power transfer benefits of a stiff shoe designed for clipping in but with the freedom of movement and agility of a flat shoe.
The irony here is that the Crossland Plus are almost as stiff as the winter version of the Multicross, but their sole, in my humble opinion, is garbage. If the Multicross sole had been applied to the Freehand mid sole, this might be a very different story indeed. I think the lesson here is that flat pedal shoe design is very difficult. The process requires riders experienced with riding aggressive terrain riding flats. Without that rider feedback you are likely to end up with shoes like the Crossland Plus. These shoes aren't total garbage, unless you ride aggressive terrain on a mountain bike. They could be just fine on a commuter bike, a recumbent, or for someone on a mountain biking riding flat trails, with no roots or rocks, in a large park. If you are a mountain biker, and you ride trails that involve hills, obstacles and perhaps some mayhem, I advise you to look elsewhere.Northwave Crossland Plus Shoes - 140 EUR
Northwave Multicross (discontinued summer version) 88 EUR
Comments
BarryW
2 months, 1 week ago
As someone that almost exclusively rides clipped, I don't really have a horse in this race...
But the Pearl Izumi flat mtb shoes I'm currently wearing at my jobsite don't suffer from that weird curved forefoot. Nor the two pairs of 2FO flats I wear for riding/casual cause they're so comfy.
Even as a clipped rider I get what makes a sole have the right shape for a flat pedal (and forefoot/midfoot differences in concave vs. convex pedal shapes). How is it that professionally designed shoes for a specific purpose like this completely miss the mark so often?
Interesting review Cam.
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AndrewR
2 months, 1 week ago
Another vote for the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Launch, I wear them as my casual kicks (as I love BOA - velcro for adults!!) and they are superb on my Chromag Scarabs on my pump track bike.
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XXX_er
2 months, 1 week ago
" Then, when they arrived there were duties and taxes added. In the end I paid just shy of 300 CAD "
And don't forget the exchange, back in the day I ordered high top 661's from Cali which were advertised at 39.95 to clear out really small or really big sizes I imagine, they were 112CAN$ by the time I got them on my fee, It maybe OK if you can ship stuff to Blaine for PU but the numbers rarely work otherwise IME
I now have the 5 10s I would easily just buy another pair and now I know the fit I could buy them on-line
In any case why is it so hard to make a flat shoe, are they overthinking it ??
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BC_Nuggets
2 months, 1 week ago
Ouch. I would rather wear Crocs.
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McT
2 months, 1 week ago
Try the NW Clan 2, Michelin rubber sole, amazingly grippy and a country mile better than the 3 above for non-winter riding.
The multicross and the freelance are not proper MTB flat pedals, they're crossover/ fitness footwear.
I'm on my 2nd pair (first pair still in the rotation), great shoes. They also make the Tribe, cheaper, same sole but it's not as good imo.
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Cam McRae
2 months, 1 week ago
Interesting. Northwave clearly lists them as MTB shoes but maybe they want broader appeal?
The Clan 2 looks promising indeed. Thanks!
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XXX_er
2 months, 1 week ago
I quit clipless on the mtn bike when i blew my ACL, I eventualy got it fixed but I stuck with flats for the mtn bike and clipless for road. After I thrashed all the pins in both sides of the pedal in one season to where i had to replace them I took the pins out of one side, so now the pins don't get fubared and I gota spare set
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Velocipedestrian
2 months, 1 week ago
"This looks the calf from a cadaver, or an amputation, but it's just my leg after [today's] pedal slip [overlaying the lifetime collection beneath]."
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XXX_er
2 months, 1 week ago
that ^^ looks pretty standard for a pedal slip, no pads ? back in the day junior snapped a square taper BB standing up on a gap so the remaining pedal came around and put 3 neat holes in his calf, they looked like multiple biopsy's
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Cam McRae
2 months, 1 week ago
Just knees and they did me no good.
VP - true that!
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kmag76
2 months, 1 week ago
Cam, if you ever come across shoes with SUP soles, id highly recommend you give them a try! the stickiness is up there with 5.10. ( I am surprised they haven't caught on more, as i discovered them maybe 4yrs ago now)
I have some Vaude winter flat shoes with SUP soles, the shoes are a little uncomfortable, but the soles stick perfect. And also I had a pair of Suplest flat pedal shoes with the SUP rubber, and they rank right up there with some of the best shoes ive tried! (I have tried a lot of different shoes, always searching for a holy grail, and every shoe always seems to have a flaw)
https://suplest.com/eu/product-category/all-shoes/mountain/flatpedal-series/
https://www.vaude.com/de/de/20546-am-moab-mid-winter-stx-fahrrad-schuh.html#?colour=451
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Cam McRae
2 months, 1 week ago
Interesting. Thanks for the tip!
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Allen Lloyd
2 months, 1 week ago
Every flat pedal show review compares shoes to 5Tens. Other than their complete inability to dry out once wet is there really any metric where 5Tens aren't just better?
I am on my third pair of freeriders in the past 7 years and while I am curious about other options I have not yet read a review that could convince me to stray.
If anything, I am curious to go back to clipped in pedals with a shoe that looks like a flat pedal. I always rode clipped in with more XC style shoes and there is no way I want to go back to that, but the flat looking clip in shoes are intriguing to me.
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Pete Roggeman
2 months, 1 week ago
Five Tens are the OGs and they work as a measuring stick because almost everyone knows what they feel like. However, a couple of reasons Five Tens are not the only standard anymore:
1) There are several shoes with rubber that is now comparably sticky to Five Ten Stealth (Specialized 2FO, Giro Latch w/ Tack Rubber).
2) As pedal designs have evolved and improved, a lot of riders actually aren't looking for MAX grip from their shoes anymore, especially those who find that softer/grippier shoes paired with really aggressive pedals either are too sticky (and hard to re-position) or wear out too quickly. It's a real YMMV situation, though - if you have a pedal/shoe combo that works for you, stick to it.
If you're clip curious, I say go for it. I love going back and forth between the two. If you haven't experienced flat pedal style shoes while clipped in, you'll likely love the way they fit and feel.
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Cam McRae
2 months, 1 week ago
As I mentioned in my review, I prefer a little less stick than I used to, which make my current faves Fox Unions and Specialized 2FO. As a bonus they both seem to be more durable and better made than recent Fivetens.
This is my third incarnation as a flat pedal rider with long stretches clipping between and this time around foot positioning has become more important to me which makes being able to adjust my foot without sitting down an essential trait for my favourite shoes.
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Allen Lloyd
2 months, 1 week ago
My primary concern with clipping in again is I move my feet around on the pedals a ton. Depending on the situation I move forward backward and side to side on the pedal.
Second concern is buying a new pair of shoes not knowing if I will like it or not.
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Pete Roggeman
2 months, 1 week ago
If you've ridden clipped in before and liked it, I don't think it'll feel foreign to have less available foot movement. You may decide you don't prefer it, or that there are times where you reach for one or the other.
But don't worry about the shoes, always go n+1 on them. Worst case you can always sell lightly worn shoes.
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BarryW
2 months, 1 week ago
I'm on Mallet DH pedals with Mallet Speedlace shoes and run the pins out for a little 'extra' traction. It's hard to imagine a better combination for me.
Flat type shoes on platform type clips are where it's at.
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