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2024 Transition Smuggler

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The Littlest Sledgehammer

This is a review of the Transition Smuggler. My eyes were first opened to the “I didn’t think they could do that” potential of short travel bikes that punch above their weight by the aluminum Smuggler a year or two after it first appeared in 2014. Ten years ago it was a 115mm rear travel, category defying thug of a bike; long, slack, heavy, and completely unconcerned about what the XC-nerds were doing over on the bunny slopes. I loved it. And I also kinda hated it. Because, like every other Transition I ever rode, as well as most Devincis and a few Evils, I never really felt hardcore enough to justify owning the bike. It was built like a brick shithouse, in order to survive levels of abuse that I would never come close to dishing out. There was a ton of progressivity to the rear suspension, so even when running way more sag than recommended I would consider it a victory whenever I managed to use 75% of the travel. In short, I felt like the Smuggler was designed for someone way more rad than me.

So, here we are in 2024, reviewing the now carbon fiber framed, 130mm rear travel Smuggler. To cut to the chase, nothing has changed. I am still not rad enough.

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I'm a big fan of bikes that maintain a nice clean line from the head tube to the rear axle. Tidy.

Transition sent me an Espresso brown GX-AXS Smuggler in late June. Since then they have unveiled the new spec and colors for 2025. Geometry and frame construction is unchanged but some of the parts are notably different. So, the component spec on this bike I am reviewing here is obsolete. Buuuut, Transition is still selling the superseded Smugglers at some hefty discounts. F’rinstance, the GX-AXS bike I am reviewing here is currently available for 5399 USD, whereas the new version will ding you for $6499US. And, as it turns out, there are some important things to consider when it comes to choosing to save some dollars or spend for the new new. We will get into that in a bit here.

This is the bike that I have been riding for the past couple months. And this is the new bike. Geometry for either is the same:

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Break out the magnifying glass! All the geo, in teeny tiny script. Sorry 'bout that.

By The Numbers

Transition were one of the early proponents of longnslack geo, and they refined it into their Speed Balanced Geometry some years back when they added shorter offset forks into the mix. A 65-degree head angle paired with a 78-degree seat angle and 485mm reach on a size large test bike is almost par for the course these days but make no mistake, this is still a long and rangy beast. The 1247mm wheelbase on my test Smuggler is 30mm longer than that of the SB120 I tested a while back, 37mm longer than the Trek Top Fuel that’s waiting in the wings, and 7mm longer than the unabashedly long Mondraker Raze. 35mm of bb drop paired with 440mm chainstays reinforce the notion that Transition were aiming to err on the side of stability while still courting some sense of playfulness.

The rear suspension is a Horst-Link 4-bar layout, with a high leverage rate and a whole mess of progression throughout the travel. Transition say the Smuggler is comfortable running air or coil shocks, and judging by how rampy it gets toward bottom out, I’d hazard a guess that they nailed that intention.

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Ramptastic!

Big pivot hardware, a meaty carbon fiber upper link, and an angularity of design that doesn’t skimp on material implies that the Smuggler is holding true to the general Transition ethos of building bikes that live to be smashed. Tube in tube hose routing keeps things somewhat civilized when feeding cables through the frame, there’s a threaded bb shell with a built in ISCG mount, and a pair of mounts on the underside of the top tube can be utilized for whatever it is that people like to bolt to the underside of top tubes. There's no stash-spot in the downtube, and you won't find any flip chips anywhere on the frame. This is the way.

The Smuggler fills a hole between the flexstay 120mm travel Spur and the Horst-Linked 150mm Sentinel. In spite of a fair bit of the marketing language being about “playful” and “nimble” characteristics, the Smuggler leans assertively more toward the “smash with conviction” side of the trail market than the “XC-bike with extra travel” end of the spectrum. There are even a couple limit spacers inside the rear shock that can be easily removed to bump travel up to 140mm out back, which would play really well with something like a 150mm travel 36 up front.

Parts is Parts

Since SRAM GX-AXS drivetrains and brakes have been reviewed to death and are so ubiquitous in this price-tier, and doubly since the spec on this bike is now somewhat obsolete, do we really have to go into the details? Okaaaay, fine. Be that way.

Highlights: 210mm OneUp dropper post, Maxxis Dissector/Assegai tires, ODI Elite Flow lock-on grips, house brand ANVL stem and 800mm alloy bars.

Standard fare: SRAM GX-AXS Eagle Transmission, Code brakes (200mm rotor front, 180mm rotor rear). The wheels on this test bike are RaceFace Aeffect Rs, a functional but chunky 2000g wheelset. Bump absorption duties are handled by Fox Performance Elite bits; a 210x50mm Float X rear shock, and a 140mm travel GRIP2 damped fork.

Ch-ch-changes: The big differences (aside from ditching Orchid and Espresso colors in favor of Slab Grey or Juniper) between the bike I am riding and the new new can be summed up in the wheels and suspension components. The RaceFace wheels get supplanted with DT Swiss M1900s, something of a lateral move as far as weight is concerned but with some added brand/hub cachet maybe. On the suspension front, the new Smuggler has gone full SRAM; featuring a RockShox Super Deluxe Select+ rear shock paired with a 140mm travel Pike Select+ fork.

Handling

In terms of stability and cornering and balance, in most situations, the Smuggler is a gem. The chassis is stiff and well balanced, the upright seat angle makes it easy to get rider weight forward over the bars and the bike really responds well to assertive input. The wheels go where they are told, it holds a line beautifully, and maintains a good degree of responsiveness in spite of being looooong and stable. For a bike this stable, the Smuggler is surprisingly spry and easy to get moving. It is responsive to rider input, and so long as you don’t go trying to confuse it with any of the current crop of XC greyhounds, it even feels nimble and playful. It’s a very easy bike to feel like a hero on when it comes to descending anywhere, even when you’ve ventured into terrain far chunkier than the suspension was designed to cope with. It has the attitude of a bigger bike, without all the additional mass of one. I really, really, like the way this bike handles, with an asterisk.

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Imperturbable. Implacable. Unflappable. Behold the field in which I grow my fucks. Lay thine eyes upon it and see that it is barren. Smuggler holds any line you want to try.

Suspension

That asterisk comes to the fore when we start talking about the suspension. It’s really difficult to uncouple suspension performance from handling characteristics, because unless we are all riding super smooth trails all the time, suspension ultimately does impact how a bike handles. And when it came to the Smuggler’s suspension, I struggled to find a happy setup. I have a hypothesis about why, but it can wait. First, the nuts and bolts.

Transition recommends 26-32 % sag. The Fox Float X piggyback shock on the bike is a 210x50mm unit, so that equates to between 13-16mm of shaft travel. I experimented everywhere between 26 and around 40% sag while trying to figure out what I was feeling, and ultimately would always end up back around 26-28% as the best pedaling dynamic. Once sag got above 30%, the bike would start feeling boggy on climbs, in addition to catching pedals more in chundery going. Sure, it was more small bump compliant, but flipping the compression lever on the climbs became a necessity and the constant pedal smashing got old quick. It would still ramp up a ton when running sag in the 30-35% range, and I still never came anywhere near to bottoming it out.

So, since going uphill can’t be avoided, I would tune the suspension for that. Snappy climbing, responsive, relatively tractable, composed. Problem was, when I set the suspension up to be good for pedaling and climbing, it wasn’t so good everywhere else. Even with the compression damping wide open and the rebound set fastish, the Smuggler would start to deflect and pinball around in loose rocks, and there was an initial harshness that was always a little disconcerting. Combine that with a ton of ramp up at the end of stroke, and running in what felt like the “mo’ bettah pedaling” sag zone, I would rarely see more than 40mm of shaft travel being used no matter how hard I fudged my admittedly not very big jumps.

Fortunately, the handling was good enough that even with the rear suspension not really joining the party, the Smuggler’s stability was super impressive. The ride was a bit jarring, but stable. Cue up my inadequacies as a rider, and run smack into the Transition design ethos. Additionally, my feelings about the rear suspension behavior also applied to the front end.

Here’s what I suspect: Everyone at Transition is a certifiable badass on a bike. They can send it for days, they haul ass, and they hit shit real hard. They also live in Bellingham, and design bikes to be sent off big lips, dropped into duffy holes, and railed hard enough into packed berms that the tires peel off. And they design bikes that make riders happy in these conditions.

By contrast, my local riding is ledgy, rocky and loose. And, as already mentioned, I can’t huck worth a damn. But still, around here, suspension feel in the top half of the travel is critical; it determines climbing and cornering traction, and is a huge component of ride comfort and stability when it comes to railing rock gardens.

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This isn't a magic bullet. But for those of us who are NOT jibby freaks from Bellingham, it's a start in the right direction.

Eventually, I pulled the air can off the Float X and found out that there’s 7mm worth of volume spacer in there. According to Fox, that shows the compression ratio at around 3.08. Just to see what would happen, I ditched the big orange 6mm spacer, leaving just the 1mm puck in the can, dropping the compression ratio down to 2.56. Pumped everything back up, cycled the shock a few times, reset the sag at 14mm, then pulled the volume spacer out of the fork as well.

Now, my brain wants to believe that all this would do is change the ramp toward bottom out, and that the top half of the travel would still be about like it was before. In practice, what happened was the bike became much more responsive in the first half of the travel, the harshness in the high frequency small stuff and loose mid-size rock gardens went away, the bike started tracking like it meant business. Pedaling behavior was still very good, but there was some tradeoff in that the now much more active mid-stroke was generating more pedal strikes. But hey, at least I was able to use most of the travel, finally…

Ideally, I would like to play around with the volume spacer pucks some more and see where I end up. Prior to increasing the rear air volume, the suspension felt solidly outgunned in most aspects by a bike with 10mm less travel (the Yeti SB120), and far outclassed in every measure by a bike with the same rear travel (the Mondraker Raze). After the puckectomy, the Smuggler felt like it was at least back in the hunt as far as suspension behavior was concerned. Still not as sweet pedaling as the SB120, and still not as broadly Cadliiac smooth as the Raze, but much, much more friendly than it had been initially.

But then again… maybe if I wasn’t such a wuss, I would better appreciate the stock suspension.

The $1200 Question

So, you can buy a leftover Smuggler like the one I tested here for 5400 Freedom Units. OR, you can buy the new new version for 1100 more. What you’re really getting for that upgraded price are new suspension components. The Pike fork has 1mm thicker stanchions, and almost everybody I know is in love with the Super Deluxe shocks, but that may because they are riding the Ultimates. I haven’t ridden the new new, so I can’t say. But I can’t help wonder if the fact that EVERY single Smuggler kit is now RockShox across the board has something to do with how the Fox bits performed the year prior.

Here’s my take: The Transition Smuggler is as burly a bike as you’ll find in this travel range. Its burliness and capability in being able to go “above category” and remain intact is a huge part of its charm, but is also maybe its biggest flaw. There’s not a ton of gentle finesse on tap when comparing apples to apples with the competition. And, when going apples to apples, there are other bikes out there at the moment with suspension that feels more refined and more capable across a broader range of use, right out of the box. There are also some hiccup aspects in terms of how the hoses route through the swingarm and into the frame, or how the rocker link sits kinda wide and will likely bug knee-in pedalers.

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Smuggling my way through a week of riding with a backpack that weighs almost as much as my test bike was a special kind of punishment. Long wheelbase stability and lots of rear suspension ramp up came in pretty handy there!

All that said, I rode this thing all over the Colorado high country, rode it in the deserts of Utah and Nevada, took it up and rode it in Bellingham and North Van, spent a week using it as a course marking donkey at the Breck Epic, and did my best to ride it hard and put it away wet every time. Even though I already posited that this is a bike suited for rad-getters and meat-huckers, I really got comfortable riding the Smuggler everywhere. It is a very easy bike to get along with. I just wished the suspension was a little bit more Goldilocks juuuuuust riiiiight.

It’s a tricky proposition. The Smuggler will, as it always has, totally appeal to Those Who Huck Their Meat. It offers a level of fun that is often harder to find in longer travel bikes. At $6500, (8900 CAD) the new new is ballpark competitively priced - $400 less than GX-AXS Ibis Ripley, 10mm more travel and $400 less than a Santa Cruz Tallboy, $800 less and 10mm less travel than a GX Yeti SB140. What it lacks in sophistication, the Smuggler makes up in super composed handling and a sense of balance that invites having fun and exploring edges.

I’m dying to know how this thing behaves with a 150mm 36 and a coil shock. At 5400 bones, one of these leftovers could be a worthy experiment.

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BarryW
+6 Mike Ferrentino Andeh jhtopilko Suns_PSD lennskii Lynx .

Fun review Mike, but as so often with bike reviews I'm mystified by the general standard that fiddling with volume spacers is a last resort, rather than a required initial setup parameter. 

On my bike I quite literally played with volume spacers to get it right over the first 4-5 rides. But it got to where the rear suspension felt great, I would rarely use full travel and it pedalled well. If I would have been writing a review based on nothing but the stock configuration it wouldn't have been so great. After? I'm in love with the bike. 

My assumption is that volume spacers are chosen by the frame manufacturer as a height/weight average baseline and then left there. So I also assume that unless I meet those exact details I'm going to need to modify that spring curve be it fork or shock.

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mikeferrentino
+2 BarryW Vincent Edwards

I hear you, and agree that this is an easily accessible tuning function. I almost always remove spacers from forks, because I personally like a more linear fork. In this case, I'm torn. Maybe with some more spacers I can find a happy middle ground on how the rear shock feels, for me, but by that same token (or puck as the case may be), I've ridden several bikes this year that felt amazing straight out of the box. Maybe that was a lucky coincidence of factory tune meeting my personal preferences.

In the case of the Smuggler, while it is working "better" now for me, it is still not where I would like it to be, and I am not sure I'll find that sweet spot with air volume. Pretty sure I will get to a point where I can live with it very comfortably, still think it'll lack in comparison to some other bikes.

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kperras
+8 Mike Ferrentino Jotegir Pete Roggeman Vincent Edwards finbarr BarryW DMVancouver vunugu

Even though we're discussing a competitor I was curious about the kinematics and shock tune and went into problem solving mode right away. 

The average progression is 28% along with the average ratio of 2.6. Both of these are normal and to be honest, in a good zone. But you can see the leverage rates start off at about 3.14 which is means the suspension is more eager to get into the travel. With the complete rate range, this typically requires some careful damper and spring tuning. My mind immediately went to too large a volume spacer; looks like you got that figured out. 2nd would be increasing the compression tune post spacer removal. I couldn't find any shock info online unfortunately so not sure what the baseline tune is. There are also different spec bottom out bumpers on the Float X, and the taller one behaves more like what you find on the DHX2/FX2 shocks; the shorter one might be helpful. You can really get into the weeds as well with managing positive and negative air spring balances when you start to short stroke shocks that were designed with the full stroke. And we didn't even cover the AS and pedal kickback numbers that will influence the suspension feel when pedaling or descending (brake free).

Lots to consider.

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vincentaedwards
+6 Mike Ferrentino Andy Eunson Mammal jhtopilko Cam McRae Sean_D

This is a solid reminder that bike design is often a very regional / personal thing. 

I’m hoping you get some saddle time on the new Ripley soon, given your penchant for a certain breed of 130 travel bikes.

I love the cover photo on this article btw

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dolface
+4 Mike Ferrentino BarryW Suns_PSD ohio

I have one (in the Orchid color which I'm sad is no longer available) set up 140mm/150mm and running a Cane Creek InlineCoil and Lyrik and it's the most fun bike I've ever ridden. 

I too couldn't get the air shock to behave the way I wanted (which I attributed to being 59kg kitted) but once I got the spring rate and sag dialed on the coil (I settled on 28%) the bike really shone. Our terrain is VERY different than Bellingham (Marin county CA, lots of loose-over-hard and dusty, blown-out ruts) and it handles it all without batting an eye.

I wouldn't mind a bit more stack and the yeah, the rear hose/cable routing is a giant PITA but those are minor quibbles; overall I'm a big fan of the bike.

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Jotegir
+4 Mike Ferrentino BarryW Pete Roggeman dolface

Yes, it's a shame they got rid of the plum smuggler.

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pete@nsmb.com
+4 Mike Ferrentino Jotegir dolface BarryW

They missed a chance to ship it with a TR-branded Speedo.

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ClassicRock
+3 dolface Mike Ferrentino bishopsmike

My most dialed bike ever, suspension-wise, was a Horst link with a CC Inline coil.  Nothing has ever come close.  Both descending and climbing.  Had 130mm of travel out back.   I’d be tempted to put one on a Smuggler.

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MTB_THETOWN
+2 Abies Mike Ferrentino

My friend has one I helped him build up from a frame. He really likes it. He's a little heavier than me, so when I ride it I chalked up the harsher rear end to lower sag, but it sounds like the huge amount of progression in the frame is also partially responsible. I have a scout and spire, and run both on coil shocks which feel great with Transition's post 2020 extremely high progression numbers. I bet the smuggler would feel great with one too.

Also, the cable routing between the two halves of the bike for the rear break is a huge pain. Even after taking the rear triangle off it still was hard to get the cables fed into the cable tubes inside the frame. I strongly prefer unguided internal routing with some foam to stop the rattles over tube and tube after building this bike up.

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ClassicRock
+1 Jotegir Mike Ferrentino Grif

I’d love to see a less expensive, slightly lighter frame that offers no internal routing (except for a dropper line - but no need for TITs). A few tabs for external routing only.   Fancy riders who dig internal tube in tube routing are going wireless anyway.   This would make Transition standout in the market.

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andrewbikeguide
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All rear brake hoses should be externally routed and NOT (as in never!!) under the bottom bracket. Andrew's law of mountain bike design #1

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finbarr
+2 Andy Eunson Jotegir Lynx . Dogl0rd

I assumed they switched to Rockshox (i.e. SRAM) to cut costs, as presumably SRAM is giving them a discount for having the entire bike be outfitted with SRAM parts. Do you really think that there's that much of a performance gap between current gen Fox and Rockshox? I thought it was 6 of one and a half-dozen of the other. 

I would struggle to pay the extra $$ for the new spec. Current spec seems great, with the exception of the Raceface wheels, which come with the Trace hub. I've had terrible experiences with it (check out the reviews on Raceface's page). The rest of the spec seems great though.

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andrewbikeguide
+1 Thermal

Talk to anyone who had a 2022 X2 versus those who run a 2022 SDLX Ult about the performance difference.

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Roxtar
+2 Mike Ferrentino BarryW

Funny, before I read the caption under the top bike pic the first thing I thought was, "Wow, what sweet clean lines on that bike."

Great minds...?

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mikesee
+2 Mike Ferrentino 32x20

Haven't had a proper dose of Vitamin B in ~5 years.

Still worthy?

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mikeferrentino
+3 mikesee Vincent Edwards 32x20

Still worthy. Still a great place to get humbled.

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OLDF150
+2 BarryW Suns_PSD

My 2 take aways from this:   1. I'm not rad, this bike is cool but not for me.

2. You're going to review the Top Fuel! Yes please.

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Bro-Tato
+1 BarryW

I live for the day when Transition figures out that tall people also ride their bikes. :)

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Bagheera
+1 Abies

Transition is far from the worst offender when it comes to larger sizes. XXL Smuggler has a 535 reach. 530 on my XXL Spire in low position feels long-ish, and I'm 190cm (that's about 6 feet 3 inches for you luddites) and no T-Rex. XL Spur is a little small for my taste, but there's no XXL.

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Bro-Tato
+2 Lynx . Geof Harries

The issue isn't the reach, it's the stack. At 6'2" when I owned an XL Spire, I had to run 3cm of spacers and 4cm riser bars to get the bars in a semi-reasonable position.

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Wapti
+1 BarryW

i read this in mike's voice.

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slyfink
+1 Mike Ferrentino

Ha! this is an interesting juxtaposition to the bike review I commented on just yesterday! (the Ripmo). I asked whether the shock's damping tune and frame flexiness were appropriate for a heavy rider (i.e. me - @220lbs). I am currently on a 2016 Transition Patrol (27, 155 rear, 160 front), and the way you describe their design ethos perfectly captures that bike. Which is why the Sentinel is at the top of my list of desirable new bikes - right next to the Ripmo V3.

While I may not charge as hard as I once used to, I find bikes designed for hard chargers work well for me at my weight.

FWIW, because I've had my bike so long, I've had my shock Tractive tuned by Vorsprung. Steve had this exact same bike and the Tractive tune for it is phenomenal. He says with this tune the bike really likes to sit at 35% - 40% sag, and I can concur. climbs well and descends well, but really (really) comes alive the harder I push it in gnarly rock gardens. If I let off the brakes in the rough stuff, it somehow gets calmer and the frame is more stable... it's uncanny.

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PowellRiviera
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I have a 2015 patrol as well. Such a good bike. 

I have a marz coil with progressive coil spring. Bottom

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Suns_PSD
+1 Mike Ferrentino

I have a Smuggler and also a Relay. Both are progressive suspension designs and the shock set up seemed a bit off. The Relay with the air shock was just bad. a 2 meter drop to flat would use like 55% travel. woof! It now has an Avy coil (perfection!). 

The Smuggler shock was much closer but still worked better for my use (it's my trail bike, and set up as such, not my AM rig which is my Relay) with all volume reducers removed.

This was the first time I had ever needed to remove volume reducers so it was all sort of new to me but I too discovered that you want just enough progression to not slam the bottom regularly, but you don't want any more progression than you absolutely need. The more linear the suspension can be, the better it will track rough natural terrain. I guess this is the entire point of that new Genie shock on the Spesh bikes, but that overall is more compromises than I want to make.

I ended up settling on a CC Inline shock at 140mm travel, and although the shock shaft o-ring indicates bottom outs on every ride, I never feel it. If you find that the medium air volume shocks are still harsh feeling or hard to use all travel on even with all volume reducers removed, you'd want to go to a high-volume air shock like the Vivid (yes it fits) or a coil shock.

Anyways, I LOVE the Smuggler! What a joy to ride this thing.

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Nukeitfromorbit
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Short cranks are rad

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syncro
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I'm curious, why the aversion to using the climb switch? Is this an across the board sort of thing or just on this particular bike?

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mikeferrentino
+9 Deniz Merdano Andy Eunson Brad Nyenhuis Niels van Kampenhout BarryW Koelschejung 4Runner1 AndrewR C_Drago

It's across the board, and is part of my baggage. I think a compression damping switch is a bandaid for either questionable shock tune or not entirely awesome kinematics. There are so many good bikes out there that climb like homesick angels without needing a lever.

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denomerdano
+3 Mike Ferrentino Cam McRae BarryW

Homesick Angels... Now thats an expat motorcycle group name...or a band.. or a ....

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Roxtar
-1 BarryW Karl Fitzpatrick Velocipedestrian

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syncro
+1 Mike Ferrentino

@Mike - that makes sense, and I'd guess some of that also comes down to bike, trail and riding type. In the trail, enduro light, down country, etc realm I can see how the need for a climb switch could be a bandaid, but I think as you move more towards a more smasher style bike/riding that a climb switch can be a good way to make up for a decidedly downhill bias. Horses for courses.

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andrewbikeguide
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Vivid Ultimate on my Arrival 170 and I have used the climb switch once to see what it felt like (unnecessary and funnily enough did upsetting things to the shifting - effective b-tension change?). And I have used the climb switches on SDLX Ult and SDLX Select + on Norco Sight and Arrival 140 exactly no times. I agree with your statement that a well designed bike doesn't actually need a climb switch but there is probably some data about energy saving if climbing fire roads/ sealed roads as part of one's party lap. I am fortunate that that sort of climb doesn't form a part of my riding on a regular basis.

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BarryW
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Because it's too easy to forget to put it into open mode at the top of the climb. 

I'm super attentive to gear, setup and use, like way over the top. But I've forgotten to unlock a pedal switch. In today's world so many bikes climb and descend so well without needing to use one. 

That being said I'll bet occasionally use line if I've got my coil shock on, vs. never if I have the air shock on.

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Jotegir
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Why bother keeping seat tube angle the same across the board when you're making fresh tooling for every size and acknowledge the ESTA gets slacker for taller people? Strange.

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mikeferrentino
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At first, I was thinking "hell yeah!" Then I started wondering about how changing seat tube angle also means that the upper link pivot might need to move, which means that seatstays and/or rocker links would also need some redesign, and.... um... math. Math is hard. Now my head hurts.

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BarryW
-1 Joseph Crabtree

Once they have the chosen kinematic it isn't hard to move those points around in space. 

I'm also mystified why they don't bother to make those things 'perfect' on each size once they are making all new molds.

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Thermal
+1 AndrewR

Transition is one of the few brands that quotes the effective STA at a realistic saddle height for each size, so my understanding is that they *are* changing the design for taller riders.

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morgan-heater
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I've always felt like the transition take on the Horst link feels super dead, like the shock is way over-damped.

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Suns_PSD
-1 Joseph Crabtree

Transitions are 'giddy up and go' and they don't ever feel plush and smooth like say a Specialized, that's for sure. But they sure pedal well, and descend well, and turn well, and...

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g-42
+2 Mike Ferrentino Kurt Adams

Rode and liked the Smuggler, own and love a Sentinel. Super dead does not at all track with my experience. Maybe it's the shock; I've got an X2 on mine, and when it's working, it's sweet. Yhe combo is supple off the top, supportive in midstroke, no worries about bottoming out. I feel.like a damn cliche putting it that way, but it just works. And no, I'm not uber rad, just another middle aged dude. In fact, here in Bellingham, the Sentinel is a bit of a dad bike...

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kurt-adams
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This bike has definite appeal for me. Currently I'm on a V4 Tallboy. Presently on the hunt for something new.....is this the bike for me? I want something similar to the Tallboy but want something that feels different.

Has anybody thrown A leg over both bikes for a comparison ?

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Sean_D
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Great review! Much better than the standard, "this bike is great, here are all the same specs that you find anywhere." It's much more helpful to read about where and who a particular model makes sense for. Living on the east coast, suspension sensitivity is much more important than a super progressive end stroke for the trails that I ride locally.

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Frorider
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Maybe I missed it, but it’s helpful when discussing sag/spacers to note the air pressures.    Personally I’m not a fan of designs that require several volume spacers and huge air pressures if you’re a bigger guy.  

After owning several bikes (santa cruz etc) that had narrow sweet spots for shock setup, I’m partial to brands (eg Yeti) that IME work well with many shocks and setups.

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mikeferrentino
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Apologies on the pressure omission. I went with sag counts and forgot to include psi. I weigh 190 ready to ride, and was running between 190 and 200psi in the shock on the Smuggler. That kept me between 13 and 14mm of sag when the spacer was in the shock. When I removed it, I was at 200psi and 14mm sag on the nose.

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dbozman
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Interesting comment regarding suspension performance. I had the same experience with both the Sentinel and the Spire, riding in AZ. Didn’t have the same issue with the Spur. The Transition version of Horst just doesn’t really work that well for consistent high-speed square edges. 

We won’t talk about all the frame quality issues. They do have great customer service and they’re arguably the best-looking bikes on the market. But between the jackhammer skittery rear and the weird stack height for bigger frames, I’m pretty much over Transition personally.

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