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REVIEW

2024 Mavic Deemax DH YLW Wheelset

Photos Tim Coleman
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It isn't possible to talk about Mavic's new Deemax wheels without first walking down memory lane. The era is early 2000's, I've just got into downhill, and anyone who's worth talking about has a set of yellow rims on their bike. If you weren't downhilling in this era, I can't explain how ubiquitous Mavic rims were, and the brand's pinnacle was their yellow Deemax wheelset. It seemed like all the best riders were on Deemax wheels, and I wanted a set badly. My lust for those wheels was so deep at the time that I would've taken a set of Deemax wheels over a night with Anna Kournikova.

Greg Honda RN01

Many would say Vouilloz's V-Process is the iconic Deemax bike, but for me, it was Minaar's Honda RN01.

Enough about the Past. What's new about this Deemax wheelset?

  • 30 mm internal width aluminum rim
  • 28 J-Bend bladed spokes in a 3-cross pattern
  • 2080 grams for the wheelset
  • $1,284.99 CDN for the yellow wheelset ($220 CDN for a replacement rim)
  • $1,199.99 CDN for the black wheelset
  • 3-year warranty
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I'm biased, but can we all agree yellow wheels are sick?! That and yellow logo Maxxis tires are mandatory on Deemax wheels?

Install

Installing the Deemaxes was easy. The new Maxxis downhill tires inflated easily on the rims with a charger pump. I suspect even a regular floor pump would have been sufficient. The tires seated easily, with less than 40 psi required. I had no issues with rotor or cassette installation. I like the supplied front hub adapters that allow for a quick change from 110 x 20 mm to 110 x 15 mm.

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Mandatory combination.

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A return to J-bend spokes is a welcome change. But why no yellow hubs Mavic?

The rear hub uses Mavic's Instant Drive 360 mechanism. The hubs use two ratchet rings with 40 teeth, giving an engagement angle of 9°. Out of the box the Deemax rear has a nice ratchet hum. All internal parts looked well-made and well-greased from the factory. I like the 17 mm ID bearings, giving the axle a thicker / stiffer wall. The wheelset comes standard with an XD driver. If you're using a non-XD cassette you'll have to purchase a separate driver, which is available for all other cassette standards.

On The Dirt

Once out on the trails, the Deemax wheels are certainly nice. The colour is eye-catching, and you're going to get a lot of questions from middle-aged men who rode downhill bikes 20 years ago. I like the sound of the rear hub which has a wonderful change in pitch as the bike is whipped in the air. This sound can probably be damped with additional grease if you'd prefer.

I tend to put a lot of load and torque through wheels and always have rub marks on the stays of my bikes. I was a bit weary of the 28 spoke build, but after a number of days slashing berms and leaning into these wheels, I've come away perfectly happy with the stiffness. They provide some forgiveness in rough sections but didn't deflect excessively. I'll probably still choose 32 spokes for personal builds because I'm resistant to change, but I can't fault the 28 spoke build in any way. On the trail the Deemaxes feel slightly damped, yet still plenty precise under load.

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I do like the machining details on the hubs.

Wear and Tear

The hubs have been reliable over the test period. I like the engagement, and haven't had any issues with bearings, axles or ratchets. I haven't ridden these in the wet much yet (we've had a dry summer), so I can't comment much on long term durability in adverse conditions.

Rim-wise, after 2 days in the bike park, I had to re-tension and re-true the rear wheel. This is standard for me on metal rims. Since then I've done one minor re-tensioning. Tightening the bladed spokes is more of a faff than I'd like because the provided tool is needed to prevent spoke twisting. Both wheels have dings in them, with the rear wheel showing significantly more character after 10 days in the Whistler Bike Park. If this were my primary wheelset I'd likely need to replace the rear rim after a season of use.

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An iconic name.

Conclusion Time.

I'm conflicted on this one. I love the yellow rims. They look fantastic while scratching a nostalgic itch for me. As a wheelset they've been great. Tires are easy to install, they've been reliable, have a lovely ride feel, and I like the hub noise. That said, as with all aluminum rims, I've had to true and re-tension these twice already, and they have visible character after a handful of days in the bike park. I don't want this to be a carbon vs. metal rim debate, but I'm hard-pressed to recommend these outright when a set of local carbon rims on a nice set of hubs costs around the same money. Factor in the time and cost of tensioning, truing and rebuilding the metal rims, and my money would be laid down for carbon. Some riders prefer metal rims as the rim bending can reduce the chance of cutting the tire in heavy sharp impacts. If you'd prefer metal rims on your downhill bike, this new Mavic Deemax wheelset is a great choice.

Mavic Deemax DH YLW Wheels

Timmigrant
Tim Coleman

Age: 41

Height: 183 cm / 6'

Weight: 87 kg / 192 lbs

Ape Index: 1.055 / +10 cm

Inseam: 81 cm / 32"

Preferred Riding: Gravity Mountain Bike

Bar Width: 800 mm

Preferred Reach: 500 - 520 mm (but this is stack and head angle dependent)

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Koelschejung
+1 Cr4w

It is well known that mountain bikers tend to be objectophilic, but wheels instead of Anna?! As a teenager!!!

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tmoore
+2 Tim Coleman Konrad

I'd take a long weekend in the S2000

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Timmigrant
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Good call, I adore that car and the sound it makes!

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pete@nsmb.com
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Tim is a certified sick-o when it comes to MTB. And cars. And whisky.

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craw
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Objectophilic. I hate that this is such an apt descriptor lol.

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mike-wallace
+1 Koelschejung

Tim, what in your opinion is a “nice set of hubs” these days?

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Timmigrant
+1 finbarr

For the downhill bike DT Swiss 350 or 240 are a great option. 

For the trail bike I've had good luck with the Project 321 G2 hub, and would be keen to try out their new G3 hub. I've been reviewing a set of Hope Pro 5 hubs, and they've been excellent so far.

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craw
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Can you share more details about the P321 G2? I recently killed two Hydra hubs (one 6+ years old, one six months old) and replaced them with Hope Pro5 since they're a good compromise of price, function and serviceability/spare parts in the long term. The P321 seemed like a good option but they're pricey and I'm leery of small batch boutique hubs.

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Timmigrant
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I've had two sets of the P321 hubs. The first was on the debut wheelset from We Are One in 2017. After a year I wrote a long term review here. I never had an issue with those hubs and rode them for 4 years, and I ride ALOT. Come 2021 I switched to a 29er, and bought a set of We Are One Unions on Hydra hubs. Great rims, but I had a couple of rear Hydra failures in a few months, both hubs needed bearings, got frustrated, and bought a new set of P321 G2 hubs in the fall of 2021. I've been running these P321 G2 hubs for 3 years now without a single issue. I've relubed them a few times, but they're still on original bearings, axles, pawls and seals. They're expensive, but in my experience, they've been worth every penny. I haven't yet tried the G3 hubs, but I'd love to get a set to try. 

I've been riding on the Hope Pro 5 hubs for a couple months now that are part of a test wheel I'll be reviewing soon (so far so good).

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andrewbikeguide
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However my experience of the G2 hubs included the magnets detaching from the pawls and been 'eaten' by the drive ring. The final magnet let go just before the drop in for Upper Howler so I had to ride all of Howler with no chain tension (the kind of thing one takes for granted until it isn't there) and no ability to pedal or ratchet (also easy to take for granted until it isn't available).

In hind sight I should have been more suspect of the 'crunch' noise as each magnet detached and got destroyed in the drive ring. And to give the hubs credit where it is due, it was difficult to tell that less pawls were engaging as the engagement was so precise and strong (until it stopped completely). The drive ring survived the munching of the six magnets.

As they were part of a We Are One wheelset the warranty was flawless through We Are One. They sent me new pawls, new drive ring and the tool to remove and install the drive ring (it required a 3' extension bar on the 1/2" drive wrench to generate enough force to crack the loctite on the drive ring - thanks to Revolution Sports in Whistler for thinking of the extra force due to their experience working on dirt bikes and sleds). The re-built hub was flawless but that wheelset was sold with the bike they belonged to.

I am keen to try the G3 versions as part of my "made in Canada" drive however the I9 Hydra hubs in my current two WAO Convergence wheel sets, fitted with Pinner Machine Shop forever axles, and run with Dumond grease rather than oil to keep the buzz reasonable, give me no reason to replace them.

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Timmigrant
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I've heard folks that bought We Are One wheelsets with P321 hubs having issues with the pawls. I feel like P321 made a big ramp in production to meet demand from We Are One, and they had some growing pains. Outside of hubs that came on We Are One rims in that first year or two I haven't heard of anyone having an issue. Or maybe I've just been lucky with the two sets of hubs I've had!

XXX_er
+1 Mammal

To deal with spoke windup when tensioning  I would go an extra 1/4 turn and then turn back that 1/4 turn, so if i wanted a 1/2 turn on all the spokes  i would go + 3/4 turn and turn back that extra 1/4 to unwind the spoke

I do check but I havent had to tension a wheel in > 5 yrs

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syncro
+1 Tim Coleman

The wheels are nice, but we need more pics of that bike. Way more. Preferably not standing still either.

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Jotegir
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So two months ago we saw the wheelset Mike reviewed and enjoyed which featured mavic's fancy no-tire-removal spoke replacement system. Now on the DH wheels the system is nowhere to be found despite the riders of a 29er aluminum dh wheelset likely being the folks who would benefit the most from such tech. Strange.

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joseph-crabtree
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Not sure why a bladed spoke is more faff, at least it's easy to keep them from twisting with a basic tool. Round spokes need some type of clamping tool and are harder to detect when they are twisting.

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Timmigrant
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Interesting point. I've never had a major issue with round spokes excessively twisting and never had to clamp the spoke.

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silverbansheebike
-1 nothingfuture

No mention of spoke nipple material. Wouldn't be surprised if these are aluminum nipples for a cost saving and that could be why you're losing tension.

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nothingfuture
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The spoke nipples, as per Mavic's specs, are steel.

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whotookit
+1 Jotegir

Are they actually steel? I'd be surprised if so, as nickel-plated brass is the standard go-to.

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